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Wild boar meal victims take recovery day by day

From day one a Doctor attending this family suspected 1080 poisoning & advised testing for it. The tests were not done. For our background information to the story, go to this page: 
SUSPECTED 1080 POISONING CASES

From Stuff.co.nz

Pleading with the emergency operator to “hurry up, hurry up, hurry up,” Shibu Kochummen’s last thought before he collapsed was of a dead dog.

The local hunter who supplied the wild boar to him had said when Kochummen picked up the meat that his dog had died.

“I remember falling down and saying, oh, that hunter told me his dog died. I asked him how and he said it was poison or something. That’s why I thought the food we ate made us sick.”

It was Kochummen’s last thought for three weeks.

He would wake from a coma strapped to his bed at Waikato Hospital.

“I asked what the date was,” he said. “I was in shock at that. I can’t feel like 20 days had passed. It felt like a dream.”

His wife felt the same when she awoke.

“I thought I had only been hospital for one day,” Babu said. “I thought I had better get to work and why am I still here?”

At 3.30am on November 16, Kochummen woke in pain. His wife, Subi Babu, was vomiting and shaking. He started suffering the same symptoms.

Kochummen found strength and called on his mother in the guest room of their Putaruru home. “I said, ‘Are you okay?’ ” he said. “She said no and fell down. I went to call the ambulance.”

All three had eaten a wild pork curry for dinner about six hours before. Their two children, aged seven and one, didn’t eat the dish.

Doctors and friends filled them in on the details of their illness and symptoms. It was sobering to hear. The three had to be lashed to their beds as they were prone to thrashing around. At other times they would laugh uncontrollably like children.

While this was happening, doctors were at a loss trying to determine the cause of the illness.

Clinical notes obtained by family and written by doctors at 9am on November 16 said the patients had encephalopathy, a general term that means brain disease, damage, or malfunction. The possible causes were listed as “1080 poisoning, botulism, typhoid encephalopathy.”

Botulism was thought to be the cause of the illness, as the family seemed to respond to treatment for that, but on December 15 a test of the food for the food-borne illness came back negative. Waikato DHB said tests for 1080 also came back negative.

A working diagnosis of food poisoning meant the three were ineligible for ACC cover. They also faced a huge medical bill for Kochummen’s mother, 62-year-old Alekutty Daniel, a foreign national.

“Because we are both not working and the hospital bills, we cannot afford to pay it in our lives,” Babu said.

“That’s why our lawyer is helping us with our ACC.”

Progress has been made. The Waikato DHB wrote a letter to ACC after a request from the family’s lawyer, after it was determined botulism was no longer considered the cause of the illness. A copy of that letter was given to the familiy’s lawyer at an urgent meeting with acting DHB chief executive Derek Wright.

The letter was written by Dr Liz Phillips, who wrote: “It is my clinical opinion (backed by medical evidence) that they ingested an unspecified neurotoxin with the meal …. I believe this would meet the criteria required by ACC for accidental poisoning and entitle them to cover of medical expenses and access to physiotherapy.”

The couple hope the ACC claim will be accepted, but they said what they want more than that is to know what caused them to become so sick so fast.

“We worry about our children and our future as we don’t know what is going to happen to us,” Babu, 33, said.

“We still get symptoms. If we go for a walk, we feel uncomfortable and it is like our body is doing tremors.

“The muscles become painful for three to five hours afterwards. If I am holding a phone, I can only do that for 10 minutes or my hand will start shaking. It happens whenever I hold something. That’s why we want to know. We can have a plan.”

They do not accept the “unspecified neurotoxin” may remain unknown and that Waikato DHB says there is no evidence of any public health threat.

“If it happened to us, it could happen to others,” Kochummen, 35, said. “We need all testing to be done.”

Family friend Joji Varghese visited the family every day they were in hospital.

“I was at my son’s baptism and we noticed they were not there,” he said. “We made some calls and found out they were in Hamilton hospital.”

Varghese and other members of the stricken family’s church arranged a support network to look after the two children. Their two youngsters have since gone to India to be cared for by extended family.

Varghese also wants to testing done.

“I wonder in New Zealand, who has such strict border patrols to stop things coming in, that we can accept there is just an unknown neurotoxin out there,” he said. “That’s scary, really. We need to know what’s out there.”

Kochummen and Babu have been cleared to travel back to India for a month to recover with family but before they depart they wanted to express their thanks to the New Zealanders who rallied around them at a time of crisis.

“The community was amazing,” Babu said. “We are very thankful to everyone who helped us and our family.”

SOURCE:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/100749727/wild-boar-meal-victims-take-recovery-day-by-day?fbclid=IwAR1pPWNOyyyALglhFRppzIH-6xKTptu2BzheXAzi_a8Fz9LThwjkDhn0jbc

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POISONED WAIKATO FAMILY: An experienced hunter asks why no authorities have contacted the hunter who provided the meat that may also have killed his own dog

WHY DID THE AUTHORITIES NOT CONTACT THE PIG HUNTER WHO SOLD THE POISONED FAMILY THE WILD PIG ?!

This comment is from Lloyd Hanson a NZ hunter of 53 yrs experience. He raises some important questions that reflect more inconsistencies in the case of the poisoned Waikato family:

There is a lot of misinformation coming from mainly the pro poison side so here is a small attempt to rectify this :

Here is my opinion, based on over 30 years studying 1080, hunting and observing 1080 aerial drops on the ground. Also as an ex possum hunter I know the bush well.

LD50 rates/pig/human are irrelevant as this is the amount it is meant to take to KILL the animal/human concerned, not to cause ILLNESS, and in the human case has never been studied extensively so the rate is……..?????

Clyde Graf, Steve Graf and I observed a margin 1080 aerial drop in the Teme Valley, Marlborough a few years back, and after 12 hours we discovered 7 dead red deer hinds and a 50kg pig dead in the river.

We found the deer that we believe the pig had fed on, and it had eaten out the paunch (gut) area which resulted in it’s death a few hours later !

The deer of course had taken a lot more pellets than was necessary to reach its LD50 rate as one could stand in one place under the helicopter’s course and observe several pellets, making it easy for the hind to smell and pick up the scented cereal based baits in a short time period.

Now in the case of the poisoned wild pork consumed by the Indian people who were admitted to hospital in a critical condition :

The hunter who caught the pig was hunting in an aerial 1080’d block! He may have been unaware, as some hunters have access through the back of farms or through isolated, unsigned areas.

He may have been using holding dogs which latch onto the head or ear area if possible, and will bite somewhere to get a grip, resulting in ingestion of blood or saliva from the pig. It depends on how long it takes the hunter to get to the pig how much blood can be ingested ! Also some hunters feed offal to their dogs to reward them for their effort at the time of capture.

The word on the street is that this pig hunter’s dog was fed the heart of the pig.

It is unknown how deadly this poison is to humans. It may well be as toxic to humans as it is to dogs. No testing is done on humans and the research used to defend the poison is mostly anecdotal from years ago.

I will only cover this aspect of the whole sorry affair but will leave you with this thought:

How come Ministry of Primary Industries, or Waikato District Health Board, or NZ Police didn’t contact the hunter concerned, because if these people had died it could have been a manslaughter case, could it not? The poisoned family’s lawyer managed to contact him without a bother !

Lloyd Hanson

Hunter for 53 years.”

Postscript : The dog died, presumed to be of poison. See this film “DHB coverup” for the whole story :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6i4pZ5RYI4

and see this older article ( 10 December, 2017 ) by a neuroscientist, on the same topic of the poisoned Waikato family, which has some interesting info on 1080 in pigs :

https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/…/update-on-th…/

FOR A HISTORY OF THIS STORY GO HERE:

https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/suspected-1080-poisoning-cases/


FURTHER POST SCRIPT FROM CLYDE GRAF:

Does anyone out there know a forensic pathologist – a medical expert – who can make a determination on what poison is likely to have caused the following effects-symptoms in the poisoned family from Putaruru? The family that the Waikato DHB said was suffering from botulism? (If so, please email tvwild@xtra.co.nz – in confidence, or contact through messenger on FB).

Points to note

Shibu, one of the victims, stated he believed the poisoning was caused by 1080 (sodium monofluoroacetate) based on what he recalled the pig hunter had told him when receiving the pig, and upon gaining consciousness after 3 weeks in a coma. The pig hunter also reportedly told Shibu that the pig was fine to feed to his family (as is also stated by DoC, TBFree and regional councils – you’d need to consume a huge amount of poisoned flesh to get a dose that would harm you).

The New Zealand Government-owned factory that imports and manufacturers the baits currently says it’s mix is 0.15% pure 1080 in bait. And that just 30 grams of bait, or 2 and a half standard sized 12 gram baits, may kill an adult human. 166 of these twelve gram baits are currently spread (@ 2kg bait/Ha) across every hectare of land and water in New Zealand aerial operations. Enough bait to kill over 60 million people every year… https://www.pestoff.co.nz/assets/sds1080pellets.pdf

Also note – Shibu stated that the pig hunter told him that his dog had died on the same day, assumed to be from 1080 poison. Also note – over 70% of New Zealand’s forests are aerially spread with 1080 poison every 2 – 3 years … the poison is spread across forests, and also across all waterways within those forests, in most aerial operations around New Zealand. (See www.tvwild.co.nz for information about aerial operations across New Zealand)

Here are the symptoms to consider …

Symptoms mentioned in medical notes:

Vomiting
Abdominal pain
Agitated
Confused
Groaning
Reduced verbal response
Vocal paralysis
Muscle weakness
Opthalmoplegia (paralysis of muscles within or surrounding the eyes)
Pupils sluggish
Eyes rolling back in head
Reduced GCS (eye, verbal and motor response)
Tachycardia
Spontaneous jerky movements
Hypotonia
Biting
Personality change
Aggression
Sweaty
Fever
Delirium
Tremors
Repetitive muscle twitching and eye flickering
Dystonic posturing of legs
Spasmodic rigid movements
Legs flipping backwards 180 degrees
Legs in frog position
Flailing arms and legs that need to be restrained to avoid injury
Arms out to side or above head
Convulsions that required six staff members to hold the patient down
Tonic clonic seizures
Difficulty swallowing
Fatigue
Autonomic dysfunction
Afebrile
Muscle pain
Rising inflammatory markers
Elevated levels of CK (highest about 5000)
Facial grimacing
Unresponsive to pain
Tongue protrusion at times
Cough
Arching and flinging head, arms and legs against side rails
Incoherent
Unconscious
Pachymeningeal thickening
Inability to think clearly
Crying
Wailing

pestoff.co.nz


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Press Release following further examination of the poisoned Waikato family’s medical notes – Kathy White

From Kathy White

I’ve spent the last few weeks reading the medical notes of the Kochumman family that was poisoned through eating wild boar, and my reading has worried me. Not just because of the vomiting, the inability to speak and the violent convulsions that required the family to be strapped to their hospital beds for weeks. But because the first working diagnosis by the registrar on the day the family was admitted to hospital was “consumption of meat containing poison used for possum/rodent killing ? neurotoxin ? 1080 ? strychnine poisoning which can produce a picture of lactic acidosis, nausea, vomiting, altered mental state and convulsions …. I cannot come up with an alternative pathology for raised lactate. May need to see if the police can test the meat for neurotoxins.”

1080 is repeated in the working diagnosis over and over again by different doctors over the weeks that the family was unconscious. Blood and urine samples had been taken. The curry that had been consumed had been given to the Medical Officer of Health, so why did no one test for 1080?

Instead a botulism antitoxin was quickly administered and the media was told that it was working. Does “working” mean the patients’ condition worsened? Because it did in fact worsen in almost all respects. A doctor said one patient’s condition had been worsening for 6/7 days. His inflammatory markers were sky high, his CK (creatine kinase) reaching 5000. The ADDS system confirmed the patient’s deteriorating condition. Clearly my understanding of the “botulism antitoxin working” is different to that of the DHB. Many people, including the international Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), advised that this wasn’t likely to be botulism. Doctors kept recording 1080 poison in the working diagnosis, but 1080 tests were not done on the food, on the patients’ vomit, stomach contents, or blood.

Finally, the patients’ urine was tested for 1080, 18 days after hospitalisation. Possibly coincidentally, the 1080 tests were done a week after the DHB received an Official Information Act request asking for the toxicology results from this case. Unfortunately the Landcare Research protocol for testing 1080 in urine requires that it be tested within two days of the sample being taken, so the negative result is less than reliable. The timing of the 1080 test and its lack of compliance with the protocol was not disclosed to the media. In contrast, full botulism tests were done on the patients and on the food and these all came back negative. So did a range of other tests for substances that were far less likely than 1080.

The New Zealand government owns the factory that manufactures 1080 baits for pest control. Government agencies spread these baits aerially and DO NOT remove the poisoned carcasses that are scavenged by wild pigs. We have a duty of care to not only do pest control in a way that minimises harm to the food chain, but also to put people’s welfare first. The least we can do is test for 1080 when people are convulsing on a hospital bed and doctors agree that the symptoms indicate 1080 poisoning.

Look at the medical notes, and decide for yourself in the video called DHB coverup – Politics before patient welfare for wild boar poisoned family. https://youtu.be/j6i4pZ5RYI4

Kathy White

Kathy White is the Waikato Regional Councillor for Taupo-Rotorua. This is her personal view.

A recent interview with the poisoned Waikato family reveals more details about the ongoing DHB cover up

This latest interview is from the GrafBoys (TV Wild) revealing more from the family who were poisoned from eating wild pork, likely by all appearances from a 1080 treated area. Basically a trail of flip flops from day one, it all reeks of cover up in what looks like a scramble to exclude 1080 as a possible cause. I mean, not testing the meal for 1080 at all? Not testing the family’s urine until after the required timeline for testing has expired? This is not rocket science and it is not the first time the NZ health authorities have bungled in the field of testing for correct diagnosis. Back in 2006 a NZ medical doctor suspected 1080 poisoning as the cause of death in a young woman, and subsequently the NZ lab charged with testing her heart to confirm or rule out this possibility lost her heart.

See links to the the TV Wild channel at the video on Youtube (click on YT icon, bottom right of video). For the history of this story go to this page or for all 1080 posts find 1080 under categories at left of the page. For more info on 1080 see our 1080 pages at the main menu. (See updates below from Kathy White).
EnvirowatchRangitikei

Further comments from Waikato Regional Councillor Kathy White:

I’ve spent the last few weeks reading the medical notes of the Kochumman family that was poisoned through eating wild boar. Here are the things that have resonated with me: (1) the first working diagnosis by the registrar on the day the family was admitted to hospital was “consumption of meat containing poison used for possum/rodent killing ? neurotoxin ? 1080 ? strychnine poisoning which can produce a picture of lactic acidosis, nausea, vomiting, altered mental state and convulsions. Saying this, the differential remains wide, although we do not think this is infection … I cannot come up with an alternative pathology for raised lactate. May need to see if the police can test the meat for neurotoxins.”

If this was the working diagnosis from Day One, why did the authorities not test any of the food for 1080 poison or its metabolites? Why did they not test the patients for 1080 poisoning until 18 days later? The medical notes show doctors were waiting for a 1080 test result. And yet someone made the decision not to do these tests, or to at least delay them. Unfortunately, testing urine for 1080 18 days after hospitalisation does not fit with testing protocol and renders the test unreliable.

Kathy White is the Waikato Regional Councillor for Taupo-Rotorua. This is her personal view.

Follow this link for a further press release from Kathy White:

https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2018/01/22/press-release-following-further-examination-of-the-poisoned-waikato-familys-medical-notes-kathy-white/

 

Calling out the Waikato DHB & MPI to respond to questions about the glaring inconsistencies in their procedures regarding the poisoned Putaruru family

Waikato Regional Councilor Kathy White, having read the finally released medical notes for the Kochumman family poisoned by wild boar in Putaruru, has raised some important questions. Developments with regard to the anomalies surrounding this case have been curious to say the least. Read our previous articles and posts on topic *below.

The questions that need to be asked of both the Waikato DHB and the MPI are:

(1) 1080 was the number one suspect, according to the poisoned patients’ medical notes. The Waikato DHB states that they have tested for 1080. However the date of the urine test was 18 days after hospitalisation, which is outside of the time that 1080 is detectable in urine (it is excreted from urine within seven days of ingestion – See Charles Eason’s Vertebrate Pesticides Toxicology Manual for further details). So why was this test not done within the correct time frame?

(2) (Incredibly) none of the meat collected by MPI has been tested for 1080. This was confirmed in a meeting with the WDHB yesterday. Why was it was not tested, when the patients’ medical notes say the wild boar meat should be tested for 1080?

(3) Why did they continue to say it was botulism when they knew early on that the symptoms didn’t fully align?

(4) Why has neither the WDHB nor MPI followed up with the person who provided the wild boar meat to Shibu’s family? This information is held by the WDHB. It could be a public health risk as this person has probably supplied meat to others.

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Responding to these issues was never rocket science. Why would the family’s meat not be tested for 1080? Why would you wait 18 days to test the family for 1080 knowing perfectly well that the results would be useless?

How safe people do you feel about eating your hunting catch now? These are all issues people have been trying persistently to address with little success as our country continues to be showered relentlessly with a poison that has no known antidote.

 

*LINKS TO HISTORICAL TIMELINE:

Family face permanent disablity after eating wild pig
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/11/17/family-face-permanent-disablity-after-eating-wild-pig/

A New form of Botulism or something more deadly? (the case of the poisoned Waikato family)
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/11/22/a-new-form-of-botulism-or-something-more-deadly-the-case-of-the-poisoned-waikato-family/

Update from a Neuroscientist on the Waikato family poisoned by wild boar meat .. the anomalies surrounding the official diagnosis
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/12/10/update-on-the-waikato-family-poisoned-by-wild-boar-meat-and-the-anomalies-surrounding-the-official-diagnosis/

Suspect meat seemed in ‘pristine condition’ after 35 days
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/346324/suspect-meat-seemed-in-pristine-condition-after-35-days

Poisoned family having difficulty accessing their medical records
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/12/27/poisoned-family-having-difficulty-accessing-their-medical-records/

 Wild Boar Botulism Family Speak Out – The Full Story from the GrafBoys
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/category/1080/

Crying ‘botulism’ from day one, we now have a complete ‘about face’ on the poisoned Waikato family
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/12/23/crying-botulism-from-day-one-we-now-have-a-complete-about-face-on-the-poisoned-waikato-family/

Mystery family poisoning – ‘No evidence’ boar was the cause
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/346807/mystery-family-poisoning-no-evidence-boar-was-the-cause

Why 18 days to test for 1080? Waikato DHB feeds public porkies on poisoned wild pork test results
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/waikato-dhb-feeds-public-porkies-on-poisoned-wild-pork-test-results/