Everyone living or working in Liverpool will be offered regular covid-19 tests in the first whole city programme in the country – with rapid turnaround tests available across the city from Friday.
Two thousand military personnel will arrive in the city later this week to roll-out a huge programme of hundreds of thousands of tests as Liverpool becomes the centre of the government’s new strategy to fight the virus.
This is not good news. Leaked inside info in the Canadian parliament tells of their plans which 30% of those in the know inside are not happy with. The plan refers to the next wave which Bill Gates of course has been warning us about with a smile (video at link). The info comes from a radio show (HalTurnerRadio) with a breakdown by Terral BlackStar at Youtube (links below). Do read and listen for yourself. Definitely you can listen to Canadian MP Randy Hillier asking the important questions which you can hear are carefully replied to in typical politician fashion (as in saying nothing) by their Minister of Health. (These particular ministers including NZ’s should be called Ministers of Stealth not Health). Sub to Hillier’s YT channel... there is more to hear there of his ongoing questions.
I’m noticing lately commentaries saying NZ, Australia & Canada are the early pickings of the New World Order Global Government crew. Hard to argue with when you look at the Police State activity going on. If you want to take over all countries you pick off one at a time and not all of them or the people would all rise up. We’ve long known that NZ is one of those (test cases?) as far back as the lectures by our own Barry Smith during the early ’70s to 2002 (hear him on the New World Order page). His humorous quip (not so humorous now) was always because NZ’s motto is ‘She’ll be right’ … and Australia’s, ‘She’ll be right mate’. Laid back as can be. Question nothing. He would always joke, ‘they wouldn’t try it in France or the farmers would all be out protesting on their tractors’ … we saw this with the Yellow Vests of course. The CV soon shut that one down note. Folks we have the takeover of the world by stealth here using medical martial law. You need to ask yourself why is it the military is required to deliver a voluntary vaccine (that isn’t even here yet … officially ie… hasn’t been & likely won’t be properly tested … and has already severely harmed human guinea pigs because they’ve by-passed animal testing). And… the military is already in place? With regular references to check points and so on. This is the classic case of the frog in the pot of heating water. While Kiwis continue to watch mainstream media and the official narrative while never thinking to question things as this politician in Canada is doing. Hear them all clap at the Minister of Health’s evasive reply. Keeping everybody safe they are. Bravo. Even after the good Minister points out what the Doctors and Scientists are saying about the testing regime! What a joke. The creator of the test told us it was not to be used to test people.
Barry Smith laid out this diabolical plan for world government in minute detail to thousands of people throughout NZ for many years. (These people have been openly recommending one, the Pope being the latest!) He also traveled globally doing the same. They can’t say they weren’t warned.
Remember our recent post on this? Watch your children. Be on the alert for changes in your country’s Bill of Rights. For intrusion into schools of the testing regime as they look for new cases (given it’s proven to be not the pandemic they first told us). NZ’s has changed thanks to avowed globalist Jacinda Adern. EWR
The vehicle images are from FB. If they’re yours please contact me. Captured in NZ. Okay yes they are military police and always been there but no we’ve seldom seen them on the roads like this but then, of course the military are now managing the CV operation and they’re operating checkpoints on the roads. It’s a little bit like WW2 don’t you think? They got good practice at this in East Timor in 2006.
Still people, you can rest easy in NZ, Chris Hipkins just said in mainstream that the CV vax won’t be mandatory. Whew. And so far masks are only mandatory on public transport. Here’s hoping, fingers crossed, they won’t make anything at all mandatory in order to work, drive, shop, go to hospital, socialize and eat out? EWR
Typically, this line “debunks” the CDC update by carefully avoiding its key point: that the vast majority of “COVID-19 deaths” were deaths caused by COVID-19 and serious comorbidities, among the very old.
This propaganda blurp from the Miami Herald (and no doubt recycled everywhere) tightly focuses on whether, in those fatal cases, COVID-19 was the decisive factor, “the straw that broke the camel’s back,” so that those dead would still be living if they didn’t have that, too. That is “how infectious diseases work,” the doctor quoted tells the Herald‘s scribe.
Whatever. Whether COVID-19 did or didn’t finish off those people is beside the point, which is that the lockdowns were, and are, unnecessary. As sane epidemiologists have been insisting since this nightmare started, the rational response to “the coronavirus” would have been to quarantine those very vulnerable people—as always has been done during epidemics and pandemics—and let the rest of us lead normal lives.
Instead, our “leaders,” guided by the likes of Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates, locked down America almost entirely—a twisted policy that has killed countless people, well and vulnerable alike, by crashing the economy, thereby murdering millions with no serious illnesses; and, as for those people most at risk, not only separating them from family and friends, which isolation did them in (the cause of that weird “COVID peak” in April, as Denis Rancourt has shown), but also killing tens of thousands more of them by ordering nursing homes to take in COVID-19 patients (a lethal practice carried out not just in the US, but in Canada, too).
In short, they gave us the worst of both worlds, ostensibly to “keep us safe” from a virus that posed little risk to all but just a few of us, as the CDC update has made clear to anyone who still has eyes to see with.
(Natural News) The State of Hawaii is turning the H-3 freeway on Oahu into a mandatory COVID-19 road block checkpoint, blocking traffic in both directions and subjecting travelers to mandatory testing, reports Hawaii News Now. It means that Hawaii is being rapidly transformed into a medical police state which will soon morph into mandatory quarantine camps like we’ve already seen rolled out in Australia and New Zealand.
The PCR test that is producing the ‘virus cases’ triggering the new lockdowns worldwide is testing for genetic codes that every human has and NOT THE ‘VIRUS’ – David Icke talks with Dr Andrew Kaufman about the astonishing hoax transforming human society
Health Minister Chris Hipkins says the Government was leaving no stone unturned to track and trace any contact with positive Covid-19 cases, scouring credit card payments, CCTV, and even had the option to use facial recognition technology.
He believes there is still a low likelihood of community transmission, despite a woman who travelled from Auckland to Sydney on July 20 tested positive for coronavirus, the third such case in the past week.
All the lockdown, the military involvement, the drama, the suicides, the fear of being pulled from your family & detained in a quarantine/detention center … are they really justified with 17 deaths? Note from the OI request that the 5 who weren’t positive, were assumed covid. Read the detail.
Post Script 20/8/20 – according to Chris Hipkins, no children will be taken from their homes by Oranga Tamariki if they test positive. That has been rumoured apparently. Nevertheless in the video in this post below, Ashley Bloomfield does say children can be separated from the family within the facility, still traumatizing if you have a very young child. Very. How is separation into another room with strangers in PPE gear, masks and so on, no visits allowed, going to help a little child recover? He would need his mother. It is not surprizing rumours are circulating. We know that the WHO rep Michael Ryan said quite plainly on television that members could be removed and put into quarantine. Listen to Adern (at 7 mins 38 secs) this link as she kind of says families will be managed carefully … she does not outright say, no they won’t be separated though. Just as Bloomfield wouldn’t.
Since Adern switched the rules with no consultation note, it appears that the military in NZ are allowed to enter homes with no warrant and forcibly remove your children in the interests of health should it be deemed necessary.
This was first uttered back in the first global lockdown by Michael Ryan speaking from WHO (now ‘fact checked’ as untrue). I recall the horror then at such a suggestion. That was a lead in. A sure indication it was coming down the pipe. ‘In a humane fashion’ or similar he said.
How humane can ripping a small say one year old child from its mother be? By perfect strangers in military uniforms wearing masks? This is not humane!
This is out and out tyranny.
Any reasonable person would know that this is not sound medical / psychological / humane practice. Aside from it being just plain common sense, the life long fall-out from separation anxiety has been well documented. This is simply not acceptable. This attitude towards our children is absolutely cold and cruel. We have already had one little 7 year old boy try twice to end his life during the last lock down. This whole current scene is terrifying and traumatizing for children and parents and shows total disregard from our authorities on the value of individual lives and the effects their decisions are having. Today I heard also of parents considering a suicide pact with their family because of the fear of possible forced vaccination. (See video at 11mins 28 secs).
One person on social media (where the discussions occur, after all mainstream or should I say lamestream won’t allow it… it’s labeled ‘misinformation’) … she said she had asked at Whanau Ora if children would be separated from their parents. The response was no, that they would not separate families from their children.
And yet this is not reinforced at all by what Ashley Bloomfield is saying in his announcements, or by the experience of the following family who were in quarantine from Australia. They were told on arrival here that they would have to be separated (they declined) then it was suggested again that their two year old who was unwell, be isolated from them. They firmly declined again adding that legal action would be taken if they persisted. This one case has been now sorted but why did it happen like that? Parents less knowing might well have gone with the separation out of fear. The whole operation is being managed by the military. This implies force at the ready. Many (or is that most?) will be intimidated by this.
Below are two video clips, one from the UK (yes news is traveling on this) and one from Ashley Bloomfield, DG of NZ Health, spokesperson in this regard for Jacinda Adern. Note how Bloomfield (see video at 25mins 23 sec) is reluctant to say outright when asked, will you separate children from their parents … after a few ‘ums’ and ‘ahs’ and hand waving (just like Bill Gates does) he admits, ‘yes we will take your children if necessary’. If a paid staff member can care for a child in isolation, then equally that child’s parent can. End of story.
So what is the justification for complete separation?
Jacinda Adern needs to step up immediately and reassure the parents of NZ that their children will NOT be separated from them.
Note: Bloomfield has a Masters in Public Health with first class honours. He also has three children. I wonder would he be agreeable to any of those three at two years old being removed forcibly from he and his wife and children by strangers in camo with masks for who knows how long… for the benefit of their health? The same question goes to Jacinda and her partner.
Please consider emailing your MPs, MOH and Jacinda Adern, and remind them of the trauma such separation of children from their parents/caregivers would bring and such action should not be remotely considered as an option. EWR
Go to 25 mins 23 sec for the questions on quarantine & children with their parents. Question (Reporter):“If you’re a single parent with one kid does your kid come into quarantine with you?” Answer (Bloomfield): “Ah what we’re generally trying to do is encourage where … especially where it’s helpful … ah for, for families, is that … in case any, any close household contacts who might be at risk of still developing an infection or showing infection that they go into quarantine … they’re kept separate in the quarantine facility … ah… so it absolutely reduces the risk of passing it on to other household family members or other household members … so that’s why we see … so some of those ah will just be individual cases there ah … others will be the whole family in there and again the main … one of the key drivers of this is to protect the rest of the whanau members from infection … it’s very common inside the household if there’s not that isolation of the case or cases from other family members”.
Jacinda Adern speaking. Watch at 7 mins 38 secs re quarantine. For the record should the video disappear, she says in response to the question, Will families be forced apart in quarantine? … “We are very careful about the way that we manage that & people’s care arrangements … we work through all of that in a really ah … careful … responsible way… so that’s something we work through with families”.
Listen at 14 secs in Dr Ryan says: “now in most parts of the world due to lock down most of the transmission that’s actually happening in many countries now is happening in the household …. at family level. In some senses transmission has been taken off … off the streets and pushed back into family units. Now we need to go and look in families to find those people who may be sick and remove them and isolate them, in a … in a safe and dignified manner”.
NOTE: To share posts to FB any more than around 2 days old, you will need to click on the heading which takes you to the post page, the FB share button appears only on those pages as of around a month ago. Cannot get to the bottom of why. EWR.
The corporation parades as your government. Watch from 1min 15sec in for specific info on the changed law rushed through that Jami-Lee Ross spoke about in Parliament also. The first video below (Jami-Lee & Billy Te Kahika) was recorded outside Parliament at Thursday’s rally. The video below that is Jami-Lee’s speech in Parliament on 5 August 2020. EWR
Quarantined returning NZers are met by the military and kept for 14 days in small quarters & ‘get this’ says Dr Buttar, they are only allowed out doors in the sunshine for HALF AN HOUR EVERY ALTERNATE DAY. Food is not nutritious, that and no sunlight is not conducive to good health at all. That was from one of his patients returning to NZ. If you test positive you are quarantined for a month. Remember Billy Te Kahika speaking (link to video) on this topic having been appealed to for help by a quarantined family who tested negative but were still denied exemption to attend the tāngi (funeral) of the children’s father. The NZ police arrested these young people including the grieving 12 year old boy who was not resisting, and drove them around for an hour it’s alleged before returning them to their mother. We are looking increasingly like a communist dictatorship. Our Jacinda Adern (PM) is good friends of Bill & Melinda Gates apparently. She has lectured in the past it appears at Microsoft. EWR
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An update from the NZPP. Some interesting detail in this video … information re Belarus & the IMF, the president declined IMF’s billion dollar offer in return for locking down their country … also re NZ military management of CV and a further option for another NZPP merger under discussion (announcements on that soon). The advance we are seeing in media towards forced door to door testing for the CV using the military to assist with that is disturbing indeed & Kiwis are not succumbing. Also of interest, watch the latest Corbett Report below looking at the consideration of the issues around mandatory vaccination world wide. At 58 minutes in, mention is made of the NZPP’s proposed action (or inaction) on this topic. And in case you’re thinking NZ wouldn’t do that, remember Brownlee’s recent statement that he would have all 5 million Kiwis force vaccinated? I did read that twice on the internet however it has disappeared entirely now, I cannot find it anywhere. Pre the last election Labour also said they wouldn’t rule mandatory vaccination out & media have highlighted it since. Thin end of the wedge scenarios. Not rocket science to figure what’s in store from those intimations. EWR
When an unskilled, $17/hour “contact tracer” shows up on your doorstep, how will you respond? Will he or she be able to wreck your life in a few short minutes? Follow the saga of Henry Kron and his family.
Be sure to see all the headlines and the video at the end of the story! There’s more. Much more. That’s why it’s “to be continued…” ⁃ TN Editor
Henry Kron and his wife Helen had just enjoyed a family dinner time with their two pre-teen daughters, Leanne and Elise. Henry headed to the coat closet to get the girls’ favorite board game off the top shelf.
He had promised that this would be “game night” and they were all looking forward to it.
Actually, life was just starting to look good again after the extended lockdown during the global pandemic. That one had cost Henry his last job and finding a new job was next to impossible with 40 million other Americans out of work at the same time.
In fact, the lack of income for several months left them unable to make their house payment for two months in row. They came within an inch of being foreclosed. Their retirement fund wasn’t large, but it took the whole thing just to get caught up.
With a lot of hard work and a bit of luck, Henry had finally landed a good job. Even though he would be on probation for the first 90 days, he was determined to do whatever it would take to keep the job.
Just as they decided who would get to roll the dice to start the game, the doorbell rang.
Henry went to the door thinking “Who would call on us at this time of the evening?” He certainly was not expecting anyone.
As he opened the door, there stood a soldier in a crisp, clean fatigue uniform.
“Mr. Kron?” he asked.
“Yes,” replied Henry, “is something going on in the neighborhood?”
“No, sir,” he replied, “I am here to give you and your family a coronavirus test because we received a report that you have unknowingly been exposed to someone who actually had the virus.”
This report is a follow-up to one where I cover how Michael Ryan of the WHO stated in a press briefing how the WHO (which is of course in the pocket of Bill Gates) now believes it is time to start removing people from their homes. I know many people, especially those of you who are in the US, think that could never happen here … well, those are probably the same people who thought just a couple months ago that it would be impossible to lockdown the entire country because people would never put up with it and because we have rights… right? This is being said even as we are ON lockdown. For those of you who can’t wait for the government to lift the lockdowns, as many states are preparing to do, remember that we were told things will not go back to normal until there is a vaccine and the entire planet has largely received it… we have also been told about how we must embrace the new normal. Part of that new normal is contact tracing. Hmm, sounds normal enough – or at least harmless – kind of like how the Patriot Act sounds harmless or Operation Iraqi Freedom may have sounded like a good thing to many, despite the fact that it was a war of aggression based on lies which resulted in the death of over a million people… but, hey, it has the word freedom in it. So what exactly is contact tracing? Well, according to California Governor Newsom… Contact tracing, combined with expanded testing, is a pillar of the state’s modified stay-at-home order and The goal is to track and trace every person in the state who may have been exposed, then quickly isolate and test them. So, in other words, the state cannot open up without contact tracing; and only then it would be a modified stay-at-home order, and not actually removing the lockdown in its entirety. And how are they going to accomplish this? In their own words… “California is building an army of 20k people who will be trained as disease detectives, serving six- to 12-month-long gigs that demand skills ranging from data entry and psychology to project management and crisis intervention.” Saying the state is providing a “customer service,” while others may see this customer service as the new secret police. California will be the test pilot for this program which they have stated will serve as the template nationwide. Welcome to COVID1984. And here is the official House Resolution H.R.6666 – COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-c… Coronavirus: Inside the Bay Area’s growing army of disease detectives https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/0… California County To Remove COVID-19 Patients From Homes Based On ‘Living Situation’ — Will Place In ‘Other Kinds Of Housing’ https://www.zerohedge.com/health/cali… Clinton Foundation Discusses creating Army Of “Contact Tracers” to Monitor Citizens who had COVID-19 http://thejewishvoice.com/2020/04/cli… Bloomberg Philanthropies Commits $10.5 Million for Contact Tracing http://philanthropynewsdigest.org/new… COVID -19 Social Compliance Officer – Military Experience Required https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=53b… CV-1984: Facial Recognition Technology To Be Used To Combat Spread of Virus Globally https://www.activistpost.com/2020/05/… WHO Official: It’s Time To Remove People From Their Homes & COVID Task Force Admits Inflated Numbers https://www.activistpost.com/2020/04/…
When Dr. Dan Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi held a press conference on April 22nd about the results of testing they conducted at their urgent care facilities around Bakersfield, California, the video, uploaded by a local ABC news affiliate, went viral. After reaching five million views, YouTube took it down on the grounds that it “violated community standards.” We followed up with the doctors to determine what was so dangerous about their message. What we discovered were reasonable and well-meaning professionals whose voices should be heard.
—The CDC (US Centers for Disease Control) admits the coronavirus test is flawed. That’s the overview and the takeaway—
As my readers know, I’ve described why the widespread diagnostic test for the coronavirus is insufficient, misleading, useless, and deceptive.
That test, used all over the world where it is available, is called the PCR.
It DIAGNOSES patients. “Yes, you have the virus.” “No you don’t.”
A very alert reader sent me a link to a US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) document about the test. The CDC establishes the guidelines for how the test should be done, and what the results mean.
Here is a CDC paragraph about results. I suggest you read it several times.
“Positive [test] results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities.”
I’m going to blow past the blatant contradiction in that CDC paragraph and cut to the chase.
The key line in that paragraph is: “The agent detected [the coronavirus] may not be the definite cause of disease.”
CDC: Yeah, you see, folks, ahem, the test could say the coronavirus is there in somebody’s body, but the virus may not be causing disease…
On one level, the CDC is admitting the test could turn up false positives: the test could SAY a patient has the coronavirus, but he really doesn’t.
This isn’t a footnote stuck at the bottom of a report. It’s right there near the top of the section about the meaning of the test.
On a deeper level, the CDC is saying straight out, IF THE TEST SHOWS A CORONAVIRUS IS PRESENT, THAT DOESN’T MEAN IT’S CAUSING DISEASE.
Well, yes, I’ve pointed out that the test has an inherent problem. At best, it might show that a virus is present in the patient’s body. But the test is incapable of determining HOW MUCH virus is ACTIVELY REPLICATING in the patient’s body.
TODAY I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE ‘NATIONAL POISONS CENTRE ….
The signs at 1080 poison aerial drops tell you to contact the National Poisons Centre if you suspect poisoning, and they give you an 0800 number to ring. Just so you are clear about this… however, contacting the National Poisons Centre will get you absolutely nowhere!!
Joel Lund of Wanaka asked a GP the other day what he would do if someone presented with poisoning symptoms after an aerial 1080 poison drop. The doctor replied he would contact the National Poisons Centre. This sounds like a sensible response, one would have thought. Think again!!!
I had a number of questions for the National Poisons Centre about 1080 poisoning, given that so many of us live around 1080 drop zones and are potentially exposed to the substance many times over
I asked the person who answered the phone at the National Poisons Centre if she was the correct person to be talking to. She said she was.
I explained that we are about to experience another 1080 poison drop in our area (Wanaka) and asked if there were testing kits available here.
She replied “I don’t know, and I don’t know if I could find the answer”.
I asked how many methods there are for testing for 1080 poisoning.
She replied “I’m not too sure”.
I asked “How quickly can they test for 1080 and get a result?”
She replied, “They wouldn’t test the person. They would probably get some history. They probably wouldn’t do a blood test. I don’t know if there is a blood test.” She said they can’t test for every poison.
I asked how accurate the testing was. At this point she seemed to realize she was out of her depth and said she would talk to the resident toxicologist.
She came back on the line and said that there is a test available but it is not widely available. It is a urine test and is only any use within the first 24 hours after poisoning. She said it is “affiliated to a woman at Lincoln University” but wouldn’t/couldn’t tell me who that is. She said it is mostly used for testing workers’ urine levels when they have been working with 1080 poison.
She said that the toxicologist said “1080 doesn’t stay in your body very long”. We then had a discussion about whether it can be found in skin and bone and hair, as in animals including mammals, but she seemed stuck on the fact they only tested humans and seemed rather unreceptive to the idea humans are also mammals.
(Ross & McCoskery (2012) found residues of 1080 in the bones of poisoned deer carcasses 213 days after death…the study ended then so no one knows how long 1080 stays in bone.
Ross, J, McCoskery, H 2012. Deer carcass breakdown monitoring. Report prepared for the Animal Health Board. Wellington, New Zealand. 7 pp.)
She said if you get poisoned they will just treat the symptoms. They won’t be bothered with what kind of poison it is. She was a bit incoherent and I had to keep asking her to slow down.
Is that a worry or what?!!!
I asked for the name of the ‘resident toxicologist’.
“Michael” she said.
“Michael who? ” I said
“We’re not allowed to give out surnames”, she said.
I asked if I could speak to him please.
She said “No you can’t”
So there we have it. If you get poisoned by 1080 do not expect the authorities to confirm it is 1080. Just hope you survive. If the Kochummen family who ate wild pork are anything to go by you will probably be treated for botulism.
Sodium monofluoroacetate (1080) is a poison which is dropped indiscriminately from the air in New Zealand at the rate of approximately 4 tonnes of pure poison annually. (The baits contain 0.15% pure poison). It kills human beings at the rate of 0.5 to 2 mgs per kg bodyweight (LD50 – Negherbon).
THIS YEAR ALONE WE ARE THROWING ENOUGH 1080 POISON ON NZ TO KILL 85 MILLION PEOPLE – AND WE DON’T EVEN TEST OUR FOOD FOR 1080 RESIDUES!
NOR DO WE HAVE A READILY AVAILABLE TEST FOR 1080 POISON IN THE HUMAN BODY!!!
Photo: HeliOtago Rescue Helicopter, ZK-IME, loading 1080 from a Cromwell Transport truck in Westland
This post on changed laws in the US reminds me of NZ’s situation with 1080 that allows the long slow cruel death a vet has described as 2+ days of slow electrocution. The NZ authorities tweaked the Animal Welfare act to exempt the spreaders of aerially dropped 1080 poison from prosecution for cruelty. Same thing really isn’t it? Cruel but it’s deemed ‘okay’ because they are killing off everything non native for the biodiversity program we were signed up to under Agenda 21 now Agenda 2030. A truly ‘sustainable’ (not) practice. Unless of course it’s your pet dog, cat or other animal. EWR
“According to The Washington Post, the PACT Act “outlines exemptions for humane euthanasia; slaughter for food; recreational activities such as hunting, trapping and fishing; medical and scientific research; ‘normal veterinary, agricultural husbandry, or other animal management practice’; and actions that are necessary ‘to protect the life or property of a person.’”
Of course animal cruelty to dogs and cats by private citizens should be dealt with severely. But what about the billions of animals tortured each year on America’s factory farms? Or how about the tens of thousands of animals, including dogs and cats, who are tested on and mistreated in laboratories?
Can we actually say we’re cracking down on animal cruelty when we still allow SeaWorld to keep cetaceans captive and force them to perform? Or permit insanely cruel practices like fur trapping and bow hunting?”
“So, Massey, couldn’t work out that “FROTHY PINK FLUID” is consistent with 1080 poisoning?”
From Clyde Graf:
So, as expected, the Department of Conservation has come out with porkies, again, trying to divert attention from its recent aerial operation and the hundreds of poisoned rats, and other animals that washed up on West Coast beaches. Drowning they say. Ha! Is DOC not aware that rats are great swimmers? They even have the tag name Water Rats. They don’t drown by accident or by Pied Piper fantasy stories, made up by desperate DOC staff.
The pathology report for the weka that was found dead, released this week from Massey (known for its creative alternatives to poisoning incidents – like the sea slugs that poisoned many dogs at Auckland’s Takapuna Beach after the aerial poisoning operation across Rangitoto Island, near Auckland) shows that the endemic bird died with “BOTH LUNGS EXUDING FROTHY PINK FLUID”!!!!
The weka’s Pathology report from Massey is included, below.
The finding is typical of animals that die of 1080 poisoning. But no, in this case, and as expected, the findings were “unknown cause of death”.
So, Massey, couldn’t work out that “FROTHY PINK FLUID” is consistent with 1080 poisoning???
For Heavens sake, when will these govt organisations actually show some independence? Oh, that’s right, they can’t! There is NO independence when it comes to 1080 poisoning incidences in New Zealand.