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Whanganui’s Govt-owned 1080 factory used to burn pellets until residents complained, then they buried them in an old city landfill with no health monitoring

Remember what NZ’s retired MD Charlie Baycroft said recently …‘if you die from 1080 poisoning, nobody will know  because the Ministry of Health is bullying NZ Doctors into not testing for 1080′. There is no evidence of 1080 poisoning he says, because it is not allowed to be looked for. EWR

From the Save Raukumara from 1080 facebook page

Heart disease and Cancer dominate mortality in Whanganui where the Government owned 1080 poison factory used to burn 1080 to dispose before residents complained about the smell of toxic fumes. Eighty tonnes gets buried there and they signed off by digging up some baits that are well known to leach and then called that environmental testing. USA EPA have proved 1080 binds specifically and doesn’t flush off with water meanwhile Landcare have never tested for adsorption of 1080 to sand.. they don’t have an accredited test for gravel either. Take a look at where they buried 80 tonnes of baits that were defective due to moisture in the grains.. not because of defective 1080.. the place is coastal so has sandy soils. What monitoring of the local people’s health has been done to see if there is a link.. none. That’s the quality of the science here in New Zealand.

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More on the disposal of 1080 in our landfills

The Whanganui item in this is the gob smacker. Unlined hole, old wetlands reserve turned landfill, undisclosed to public by all appearances, right dab next to a PRIMARY SCHOOL! How irresponsible is THAT? … EWR.

From NO to 1080 use in NZ FB page

1080 poison (Sodium Monofluoroacetate) is a hazardous chemical that is repeatedly dumped in New Zealand’s landfill sites (official and unofficial) without consideration for the potential harm. Contrary to some claims, 1080 does not easily breakdown into ‘harmless by-products’: one teaspoon of the poison can kill and harm as many as a hundred adults. It is highly lethal, stable in water, disperses readily through the environment, and in some conditions remains poisonous for months, if not years. For instance, in March 2000, 20 tonnes of mixed, unwanted 1080 poison baits, between 8-20 years old, were buried in West Coast farmland. When tested a few months later, the substance was still highly toxic.

Official Informatiom Act responses have revealed that for decades, Auckland, Canterbury, Winton, Whanganui and Marton landfills have all been recipients of tonnes of unwanted 1080 poison. This is because according the manufacturers, the cereal baits have a limited shelf-life (how convenient for their profit margins?). Apparently, depending upon storage environments, damp and mould can affect the palatability and structure of the poison baits, which can mean they are unstable, unsafe and unsuitable to be distributed aerially via the helicopter hoppers. To summarise some of our findings:

• In August 1996, over 12 tonnes of unwanted highly toxic 1080 poison baits were buried in a purpose-dug pit in a managed landfill site at Winton, central Southland. Weeks after the burial, toxic 1080 was still present in some of the groundwater samples (despite unreliable testing methodology).

• 66 tonnes of 1080 poison baits, originally intended for Makarora aerial pest control operation (2015) were unused because of the poor weather. The spoiled poison baits were sent to a Manawatu-Whanganui landfill site (Probably, Marton).

• A storage shed in Haast was swamped during recent flooding, and the rising river water damaged over 16 tonnes of toxic 1080 bait. This week, that poison has been buried at…you guessed it, Marton.

• In February 2018, 600kgs of 1080 poison baits was transported from the Whitianga storage site (within a residential area) to a North Auckland landfill.

• Also in 1996, in Whanganui (near the 1080 poison factory) 61 tonnes of 1080 poison cereal bait was buried in a shallow, unlined hole at the landfill site, now known as Balgownie Reserve. Tragically, this area was previously a precious wetland of historical and cultural significance. A primary school is situated next door.

There are many other stories waiting to be exposed. Meanwhile, none of New Zealand’s authorities adheres to international guidelines on toxic waste disposal, including the requirement to monitor community health in these areas. And concerns are repeatedly raised about potential harmful affects from the storage, disposal and aerial distribution of 1080 poison.

In the USA and in Europe, authorities are waking-up to their responsibilities to citizens. New funding is being provided to enable the costly clean-up of old toxic dump sites, and this involves specialists digging up the hazardous waste and disposing of it safely. Public health is a priority.

It’s bad enough to distribute tonnes of 1080 poison baits over thousands of hectares—66 tonnes of the poison baits could kill or seriously harm almost the whole population of New Zealand. It’s another thing however to dump this amount of lethally toxic substance into one shallow hole. What impact could a highly concentrated amount of this toxic chemical have on the health of nearby, unknowing, small communities?

When is the New Zealand Government going to face up to the magnitude of our ongoing soil and water contamination, stop the dumping of hazardous waste and start the crucial clean-up operations?

MANAWATU-WANGANUI LANDFILLS ARE FULL OF 1080 POISON

By Carol Sawyer

Horizons Regional Council have a long history of being lax about 1080 poison going into their region’s landfills it seems. I wrote the following in January 2017:

“George Robinson has worked in the pest control industry all his life. When he left the Manawatu/Wanganui (Horizons) Regional Council he had a gagging order put on him, but the time period is now up.

This is the story he told me:

They used to use (up to 2008-2009 that he knows of) 20% 1080 stock solution and dilute it to a field solution to put it on the green-dyed carrots, for rabbits. He said they had back packs and had it running down their arms, legs, backs….. They used to find dead birds everywhere, blackbirds especially. They were told it all dissolved in water and broke down.

They had a big holding tank and the stock solution could be held for up to 7 or 8 years before it was no good, but a man from a waste removal transport company would come along and pump out the holding tank. He would take it down to the Palmerston North landfill and spread it all over the ground, driving round in a circle. George says this guy was a straight-up sort of chap who was amazed that he was given permission to do it.”

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Also the 66 tonnes of 1080 poison baits, unused at Makarora, Mt Aspiring National Park, in 2015, ended up being trucked to a Manawatu-Wanganui region landfill according to an OIA response from DoC to Ray Thompson in February 2017 – an identical performance to the 16 tonne one in this recent RadioNZ report attached. 66 tonnes of 1080 baits contain enough pure 1080 to kill 1,414,286 x 70 kg people and poison another 1,414,286 people ( LD50 0.5 to 2 mg per kg bodywight, Negherbon )

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If I hadn’t been alerted to a rumour about JJ Nolan’s Haast (Okuru) flood-damaged storage shed, and if Joel Lund had not then gone from Wanaka to Haast and bravely taken photographs of same with a good zoom lens (because we could not be sure until then which building it was, and needed proof – the HazChem sign) and undergone on-site interrogation while he was about it (!), and if Richard Healey had not done terrific captions and graphics plotting the old water courses in the area, and also calculated the size of the storage shed from the photographs, and if Kathy White hadn’t nudged me into sending an OIA request to Worksafe (I hate doing OIAs) which confirmed that flood-damaged bait was disposed of, and if David Haynes had not followed up with a more specific OIA request to the EPA which confirmed quantity, destination and method of disposal, this RadioNZ story would never have emerged.*****

Story in more detail here: https://www.facebook.com/carol.sawyer.3511/posts/2387188484894797

These stories are almost always a joint effort and this is the true power of the anti-1080 movement. So much unacceptable carelessness and dangerous practice is hidden from the public by the Dept of Conservation. It is, frankly, disgusting behaviour. But… it is getting harder and harder for them to hide the truth !!!

*****Footnote: Organisations like Worksafe, DoC, OSPRI, EPA consistently use the full legal limit of 20 working days before responding, and more and more frequently are claiming a need for extensions of time. The flood happened in mid-March and it has taken FOUR MONTHS to get even this small part of the story into the medis – such are the holdups imposed on obtaining information which it is our legal right to have.

 

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This is an excerpt from an OIA response from the Whanganui District Council.. You’ve got to wonder what substantial quantities implies in reference to the Palmerston disposals.. When Awapuni landfill stopped taking 1080, our government owned manufacturer applied for a consent to dispose of 80 tonnes of 1080 products in an unlined landfill in Whanganui.. right in-between a school, suburb and an industrial area. They waited months to sample the dump after it rained.. Not one soil test was taken. They submitted a few bait samples for testing that leach 1080. Finding lower amounts of 1080 in bait samples after rain isn’t proof of degradation.. it just proves 1080 leaches from baits.

(Info supplied by the No to 1080 facebook page)

A general update on current events in Paradise down under

I see that things have been developing on the 1080 front. (As much as I dislike FB & the ever encroaching censorship, it is the main platform for the latest info by the myriad of excellent researchers & environmentalist groups on 1080 developments)  … there has for starters been the event concerning the man who was poisoned at the 1080 factory in Christchurch, nary a word in lamestream media of his condition or what he was poisoned by. It appears to be top secret.

So why can’t they tell us?

My guess which isn’t rocket science of course, is that it WAS 1080. (They can’t get away with ‘botulism’ this time as it was in a 1080 factory & it was an accident .. bit of a stretch

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The deadly Class 1A Ecotoxin, 1080 poison, slathered all over NZ for more than 50 years & still we have ‘pests’

to spin the botulism fairy tale … see all related articles on that debacle here). Damage control in my humble opinion but hopefully now folk are beginning to join dots & see that what the good NZ MD Charles Baycroft said is true … they won’t test for 1080 and for a reason. If you don’t test of course you won’t find it. Clever isn’t it? See at this link what happens if you do express the desire to fully conduct studies on this at an academic level. Hint: you won’t be celebrated with any science awards. The NZ corporation is not into independent science at all. Try presenting some independent research to your local councils and see the response.

Anyhow I digress & I haven’t even mentioned the furore over the trucking of 14 odd tonnes of flood damaged 1080 pellets all the way to our own Bonny Glen landfill in the Rangitikei. (Read RNZ’s take on it here). You know, the landfill that’s now gotten the Rangitikei dubbed by locals as the ‘toilet bowl’ (formerly grain bowl) of NZ, the one recently quadrupled in size that had all the cover ups on the volume of leachate being disposed of via the WWTP (submission at the link by then local Hamish Allan)... a gentleman’s agreement at the point of sale that stretched somewhat & came to light via onto-it people who noticed the night pumping of leachate into the plant. The council there employs the same modus operandi as your esteemed corporation cum government … they don’t do instream biota surveys (well hardly ever) so’s they won’t find that the water quality has deteriorated.  You can read about all of that at the Bonny Glen pages at the main menu.  The consent hearings by the way to expand the tip were held 30 minutes drive away in Feilding, not in Marton, the location of concern. And the session I attended saw one of the three man panel make a Freudian slip saying ‘when the consents are granted’ not ‘if’.

Intriguing.

To boot, the unfortunate folk who live on certain streets in Marton have to endure refuse trucks rumbling by at 5-10 minute intervals starting at 6am (and why through town when there is a suitable network of equally accessible country roads is anybody’s guess) along with the wafting of the stench from the ginormous landfill just kilometers away under certain wind conditions. And I haven’t even mentioned the feral cats, the rats & the seagulls that drop rubbish all over surrounding farms, allegedly causing the death at times of stock. As you could say, for the town folk as well as those adjacent to the tip, stiff cheese for the plummet in their property values. They weren’t using their crystal balls like the esteemed authorities were. When the whole landfill expansion idea was sprung upon them & they organized a public meeting, District Councilors whom they’d elected to represent them were not allowed to comment or offer advice of any kind. They sat there silent whilst the debate raged. The illusion of democracy folks.

On the 1080 front, there is info that’s come out from an OIA request by lawyer Sue Grey & Councilor Kathy White regarding residue tests, proving that 1080 is right throughout our food chain (more in a post to come). So all that those pesky ‘conspiracy theorists’ have been going on about for ages might be true after all? And they told us all (& unbelievably, continue to) that 1080’s safe as houses & breaks down in water. No surprizes there. Your country Kiwis is corrupt to the core. Money matters & you don’t any more. Roger Douglas has a lot to answer for.

I also heard on a similar line, that NZ’s Northland kids have one of the highest rates of rheumatic fever in the world, due it’s reported, to poverty & homelessness (43K in NZ homeless). But then according to a recent OIA request I made they’ve rid us of some 3K state homes, once a public asset. And people are reporting these homes are still being bulldozed. If you see any being expunged in your area please let us know. Sad isn’t it, when NZ was once hailed as clean and green & a country that cared for its people? In fact I remember Jacindarella recently paying lip service at Buckingham Palace to the sentiment that people come first, wearing her gifted korowai (feather cloak), reciting ‘he tangata, he tangata, he tangata‘, part of a Māori proverb that said people mattered (most of all) … words to that effect. She was holding high a glass of wine and toasting the people. Well, the people are toast unfortunately, as she carries on the globalist wrecking policies from decades ago that get more 14484651_1472593802754892_3596900895775183479_n.jpgdestructive with each ‘new’ corporation/govt that in reality doesn’t differ from one side to the other whilst we’re all still fed the illusion of choice. (Remember Gareth Hughes’ Green Party speech?) That’s the reality of the new world order, one world government, Agenda 2030 scam they’ve been inching on us since the big announcement early ’90s by George Bush Sr … aka …. the ‘sustainable development’ LIE. 

On that note … I’ll expand on all of the above in posts to come. There’s quite a lot going on.

Thanks again to all those who read, correspond, comment & enlighten me with your links, information, advice & criticisms … and sharing your own personal visions & plans on how to push all of that manure uphill with the proverbial garden rake.

EWR

The dumping of the Class 1A Ecotoxin 1080 in NZ landfills & DoC’s in-house studies justifying it

From the NO to 1080 use in NZ Facebook page

Regarding the toxic landfill sites, more from the Greymouth Star, 10 August 2000:

From the article (image below):

“Manager of the 1080 pellet producing factory, Bill Simmons, said dumping 1080 was accepted as normal practice and there was no cause for alarm about a 22 tonne dump at Chesterfield, North of Hokitika. In Wanganui, we dumped 58 tonnes in a landfill. We lifted the bait out of the ground for assessing and in six months it had degraded by half and in 12 months it was barely detectable.”

And yet, in the SAME article, (quote)

“Scientific evidence says WATER does DESTROY 1080 and residue lasts no longer than 24 hours and it does say that after 4 inches of rain the baits are safe.”

So which is it? Does the poison ‘disappear’ after 24 hours, or hang around for over a year?

And who did that testing?

You guessed it, the New Zealand Dept of Conservation – the same people advocating its use. The conflicts of interest and the inadequate and conflicting outcomes from testing has been ongoing for decades.

RELATED: NEARLY 70% OF DOC’S STUDIES JUSTIFYING AERIAL 1080 OPERATIONS WERE CONDUCTED IN-HOUSE

1080 poison does not ‘breakdown quickly into harmless salt’ as per the propaganda. It takes a long time to break down and the process kills micro organisms that are essential for the complex ecosystems of our environment.

There is no antidote to 1080 poison. It is a known hormone disruptor and a single teaspoon of the toxic chemical can kill many adults. The sub lethal impact on many species, including humans, is entirely unknown.

 

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SO WHICH IS IT? DOES THE POISON ‘DISAPPEAR’ AFTER 24 HOURS, OR HANG AROUND FOR OVER A YEAR?

Richard Healey says :

“Neither proposition is true. The science on this is pretty well established. Adding water to 1080 simply makes an aqueous solution. The lethality will not degrade… ever. The same can be said for contact with soils. What does eventually break down 1080 are microorganisms sometimes found in the environment.

Note the “sometimes”. In a set of laboratory experiments one researcher found that when he added 1080 to a mixture of soil and water (eight samples, from different sites around New Zealand) the lethality of the mixture gradually decayed over time. For three of the samples essentially no reduction in toxicity occurred. The breakdown rate was dramatically affected by sample temperature and slowed quickly as the temperature of the sample was reduced below 23 degrees.

1080 is biodegradable, given the presence of the right microorganisms, given the right temperature and given time. Remove any one of those three and it is a very persistent toxin indeed.

That’s precisely why DoC’s use of the phrase “biodegradable 1080“ is so dangerous, so irresponsible and so dishonest. Think of it as telling someone that it’s perfectly safe to jump out of an aeroplane – without first explaining that you should be wearing a parachute at the time.”

RELATED: OVER 5 YEARS NZ$3 MILLION HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY DOC ALONE TO THE EIGHT MAIN NEW ZEALAND UNIVERSITIES – SO HOW INDEPENDENT IS THEIR RESEARCH?


If you are new to the 1080 poisoning program, here is a good article to start with …WHY ARE PEOPLE SO CONCERNED ABOUT 1080? A must watch also is Poisoning Paradise, the doco made by the GrafBoys (banned from screening on NZ TV, yet a 4x international award winner). Their website is tv-wild.com. Their doco is a very comprehensive overview with the independent science to illustrate the question marks that remain over the use of this poison. There are links also on our 1080 resources page to most of the groups, pages, sites etc that will provide you with further information.

Check out the 1080 pages at the main menu, particularly the sub tab, ‘suspected 1080 poisoning cases’. Finally, remember what the retired MD Charlie Baycroft said recently …‘if you die from 1080 poisoning, nobody will know  because the Ministry of Health is bullying NZ Doctors into not testing for 1080′. 

 

Is there 1080 in your landfill? According to a 2019 OIA request DoC alone has buried 100 tonnes in NZ’s landfills

“It is common practice to dump excess 1080 pellets after 1080 drops have finished (Re Stewart Island dump, see article).When 1080 toxin was first discovered in ground water the source of the toxin was traced to a landfill site above. Un-spread 1080 baits had been buried in the landfill and the toxin had leached out of the baits and seeped down into the ground water where it remained as toxic as the day it was dumped. No breakdown of the poison had taken place over all that time” … these are only DoC’s figures … “OSPRI has traditionally dropped more 1080 poison than DoC. Regional Councils account for around 12% of 1080 use too.”

(Something you likely didn’t know – see comments for a video from TVNZ’s Seven Sharp program on how an old West Coast landfill washed out to sea & back to shore again during a flood).

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By Carol Sawyer

DoC HAS BURIED ENOUGH 1080 POISON IN OUR LANDFILLS TO KILL 4.3 MILLION PEOPLE ( 2016-2018 ) – 100 TONNES OF UNUSED 1080 BAITS!!!

resized pelletsIn the past three years, it appears at least 100 tonnes of unused 1080 poison baits have been sent to landfills by the Dept of Conservation! (See OIA results below) That amount of 1080 baits contains enough 1080 poison to possibly kill the whole population of New Zealand. 1080 leaching into our groundwater, never mind the expense of trucking unused baits all round the country again. … read on.

These are only the DoC ” Battering the Birds” * programme’s figures of course. OSPRI has traditionally dropped more 1080 poison than DoC. Regional Councils account for around 12% of 1080 use too.

100 tonnes of 1080 baits contain enough pure 1080 poison ( 150kgs ) to kill between approximately 1 million and 4.3 million X 70 kg humans, and make the same number of people very ill. ( Human LD50 is 0.5 to 2 mg/kg bodyweight )

NB: “Based on fatal or near-fatal cases of human poisonings, the dangerous dose for humans is 0.5-2.0 mg/kg BW” (Negherbon 1959)

I don’t see the 600kgs, stated in the second OIA response attached, included in their latest response, 21.2.2018 ! ( see John Veysey’s letter below )

PLUS THERE ARE ANOTHER 66.6 TONNES THEY HAVEN’T INCLUDED IN THEIR OIA RESPONSE ATTACHED ( see third OIA response, included in body of post below ) – These were baits targeted for the 33,000 ha aerial 1080 drop at Makarora in 2015.

The pre-feed was dropped at Makarora but the poison was not. Bad timing, and initial faulty flight charts, ( by HeliOtago Ltd presumably ), meant the drop was postponed and then foiled by the onset of winter.

DoC Wanaka announced the poisoning would happen the following Spring but this never eventuated. The poison was dumped. They have conveniently left this out of the latest OIA response, and pretended they haven’t kept records.

Just as well WE do !!!

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LETTER TO EDITOR, OTAGO DAILY TIMES, JULY 2018 – NOT PUBLISHED

FB post, August 16, 2018 : John Veysey of Coromandel sent me this letter by email today. It wasn’t published so I will post it here as it is well worth reading.

“Dear Sir,

A pile of 1080 pellets was found dumped on Stewart Island. This evoked shock and horror from the local MP, Sarah Dowie.

Which only goes to show how effectively DOC has covered their tracks in the past.

It is common practice to dump excess 1080 pellets after 1080 drops have finished.

When 1080 toxin was first discovered in ground water the source of the toxin was traced to a landfill site above. Un-spread 1080 baits had been buried in the landfill and the toxin had leached out of the baits and seeped down into the ground water where it remained as toxic as the day it was dumped. No breakdown of the poison had taken place over all that time.

It is understood by contractors that, at the end of every 1080 drop, there will likely be excess toxic baits to be got rid of. You never hear of any baits being returned to the factory. For decades now council-run, public landfill sites have been used to dump unwanted 1080 baits. These dumps are invisible to the naked eye but can be traced through the paper-work.

A 1080 drop in our area ( Coromandel ) last year left nearly a tonne of unused 1080 when it was finished. DOC’s hazardous substance tracking form shows us that not all of this was dumped. 300 kgs was given to a Quenton Potae, a private individual living in Kennedy Bay just over the hill. The left-over 600kgs was dumped in a landfill in Auckland.

Quenton Potae is not the only local private individual to have been given 1080 pellets in our area in the last 12 months. A group of life-style-blockers just up the road from us applied for and were given 100’s of kgs of 1080 pellets to chuck around their properties. Most of them are absentee-landowners whose annual contribution for pest control will be considerably reduced with the free 1080. The cost for those of us living downstream has been life-changing.

During the last 40 years of my life I have managed to enjoy a sub-poverty-line income by sustaining myself on wild meat. To-day my way of life is not possible. Wild meat is no longer safe to eat.

John Veysey

Coromandel “

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A large quantity of 1080 found dumped on Stewart Island in 2018 (see link above)
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Signs like these are common in New Zealand, farmers throw 1080 around with no with-holding periods for stock grazing the paddocks which raises questions about the  presence of 1080 in our food chain  Photo Credit: Carol Sawyer (not the farm mentioned in the article)

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And another 66 tonnes !!

This was on FishnHunt Forum, April 1, 2017

“Dear Mr Thompson

OFFICIAL INFORMATION REQUEST

I refer to your official information request dated 22 January 2017, asking the following questions about the 2015 cancelled Makarora 1080 operation:

  1. What was the financial cost of the 1080 baits that were dumped from this abandoned operation?

DOC does periodically need to dispose of 1080 bait because it has chemically or physically broken down and therefore is no longer fit for purpose. Following the cancellation of the Makarora operation, the cost of the toxic bait disposed of in this condition was $82,334. (1)

  1. How much bait in weight was dumped from the abandoned 2015 Makarora poison operation?

Approximately 66,000 kilograms of 1080-laced bait was planned to be used for the Makarora operation…………..

  1. Where was the unused 1080 poisoned baits dumped?

(1) Bulls..t ! At $3.13 per kg the cost is $206,580 !

Disposal of toxic bait is done in accordance with the appropriate HSNO (Hazardous Substances and New Organisms) regulations using landfills consented for this purpose. The toxic bait intended for the Makarora operation was disposed to landfill in the Manawatu- Wanganui region.

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 EWR Note: Whilst it’s acknowledged there will be landfills that do dispose of the poisonous baits correctly and according to regulations,  can we be assured of 100% foolproof protection of our water supplies? Really? In Marton alone which had its landfill size quadrupled (or close to quintupled) in 2015, the leachate was being trucked & disposed of in the WWTP in keeping originally with a gentleman’s agreement at the time of sale by Council to a private owner. Locals noticed that the trips by the trucks to the plant were happening at night time even & far more frequently than was officially claimed, too much for the plant to cope with. See Comment Regarding Leachate Disposal at the link. The consent is to be reconsidered in March 2019 note. A google search reveals little change reported by mainstream since 2015.

*DoC’s Predator Free programme is known as “Battle for the Birds” when in fact they are killing all varieties, natives included, within the drop zones. Remember the incidence documented about the LandCare scientist’s kill estimate of 10K birds in a single aerial 1080 drop in 2002.


For further articles on 1080, use categories at left of the news page.

If you are new to the 1080 poisoning program, a must watch is Poisoning Paradise, the doco made by the GrafBoys (banned from screening on NZ TV, yet a 4x international award winner). Their website is tv-wild.com. Their doco is a very comprehensive overview with the independent science to illustrate the question marks that remain over the use of this poison. There are links also on our 1080 resources page to most of the groups, pages, sites etc that will provide you with further information to make your own informed decision on this matter.

If you are pro poisoning of the environment, EnvirowatchRangitikei is not the place to espouse your opinions. Mainstream would be the place to air those. This is a venue for sharing the independent science you won’t of course find there.

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