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A British documentary maker concludes that money not science is at the bottom of NZ’s continued use of 1080

From 2009 in Pressreader

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If you are new to NZ’s 1080 poisoning program here is a good article to start with …

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO CONCERNED ABOUT 1080?

A must watch also is Poisoning Paradise, the doco made by the GrafBoys (banned from screening on NZ TV, yet a 4x international award winner). Their website is tv-wild.com. Their doco is a very comprehensive overview with the independent science to illustrate the question marks that remain over the use of this poison. There are links also on our 1080 resources page to most of the groups, pages, sites etc that will provide you with further information to make your own informed decision on this matter. You can also find further 1080 articles at ‘categories’ (left of the news page) or by using the search box. Other vital info regarding risk to humans can be found on the Suspected 1080 Poisoning page.

If you are pro poisoning of the environment, EnvirowatchRangitikei is not the place to espouse your opinions. Mainstream would be the place to air those. This is a venue for sharing the independent science you won’t of course find there.

Note: We aim to raise awareness by providing independent information on environmental poisons … and we don’t endorse violence.

 

The SPCA’s been roundly censured for daring to suggest that death by 1080 is inhumane

Recently the SPCA (finally) spoke out about the animal cruelty associated with 1080 poisoning of NZ’s creatures, calling for a look into alternatives. If ever a death was cruel it was death by 1080. It has been likened by a veterinarian to two days worth of slow electrocution. (Search Youtube for video evidence of this. Not for the faint hearted).

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Death by 1080’s been likened by a vet to two days of electrocution

Our authorities have tweaked the Animal Welfare Act to allow this. Just like they changed the Resource Management Act to allow them to drop this same ecotoxin with no antidote into any sized body of water totally disregarding the data sheets which say not to. A convenient ‘solution’ to those glitches in the wholesale poisoning of more than just pests (as we’re led to believe).

Anyway, the SPCA has been roundly censured for daring to suggest a two day agonizing death is reason enough to look into alternatives, assisted predictably, by an economist. To the discerning among us that’s surely an uncomfortable mix?  An economist? Commenting on animal cruelty?

But then 1080 is very much about money & economies. And gravy trains. In NZ it is anyway. Economists are really enthused about conservation & the much touted ‘sustainable development’ lie. I say ‘lie’ because since the inception of the ‘sustainable’ idea (early ’90s) I’ve seen very little that you could call sustainable except of course the profits accumulating in the banks of its proponents. On the other hand, child poverty is up, suicide’s up, debt’s up, pollution is exponentially up and on it goes. So after 30 odd years & few if any results, it clearly isn’t working. Well not for most us anyway.

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And aside from all of the above, a two day death IS cruel.

I’m noticing lately, every time a new crack appears in the flimsy rationale offered for using a non-target poison to target pests, instead of trotting out the body of watertight research thousands of NZers are still waiting to see, including the long term studies, we are offered as an alternative to the usual ‘toolbox’ speech, a new spokesperson,  the latest being economist Gareth Morgan. Gareth has a financial interest in 1080 through his association with Zero Invasive Predators (ZIP), a partnership between NEXT Foundation, and the Department of Conservation. Gareth’s particularly well known for his inclination to exterminate NZ’s cat population. But then, they’re an introduced species aren’t they & the NZ Govt (Corporation) without plainly telling us in the Predator Free 2050 verbiage, intends for the elimination of all introduced species except farm stock. Economists in the, dare I say Rogernomics view however, do fit the new conservation look. Economists have a Houdini-like ability to adapt themselves to any cause if it means profits. Two things that go together like peas in a pod these days are profits & chemicals, even poisonous ones. Think Nature Conservancy (TNC).

TNC is known as  the new Greenwash … environmental organizations partnering with very large & powerful corporations many of which have more to do with destroying environments than saving them. For further info on that read our post earlier last year on the Nature Conservancy visitors (30 international bankers including the CE of Goldman Sachs) flying over Fiordland with DoC’s CEO Lou Sanson … (see here also, cited below). (When this piece of news leaked out and was posted on social media, a Labour member explained in one of the discussions that it was a conservation mission associated with TNC).

TNC is a Hong Kong group and is headed by a former Goldman Sachs CEO.

Check out their corporate partners: “Pepsi Co, Disney, IBM, Goldman Sachs, Walmart and Cargill. In Asia Pacific, … Neutrogena in Australia and Rio Tinto in Mongolia. In Hong Kong, …  Dragonair, Pacific Coffee Company, FORTUNE China, HSBC Private Bank, the Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Hong Kong Commercial Radio, Moet Hennessy Asia Pacific, Time Asia, Sun Hung Kai Properties and the Hong Kong Airport Authority”. And there it is again, Goldman Sachs. They’re featuring quite prominently. And Key’s friends from Merrill Lynch.

If you navigate from the NZ website for TNC, there is another list of global companies that have partnered with them. On that very long list are Dow Chemicals, Shell & Coke to name three, who are all ill qualified to fit any green profile by any stretch of the imagination.

Speaking broadly, a not so new breed of ‘environmental’ people have clearly been dominating the green movement for some time particularly since neo liberal economics and are in fact all for profit. Strange bedfellows they shroud their activities in a deceptive cloak of green & sustainable rhetoric but don’t be fooled. The bottom line of corporations is profit. (Read Behind the Green Mask on that. The author Rosa Koire’s site is here).

TNC has been operating here in NZ since 2016:

“As part of a three-year strategic plan, in 2016 we worked with government officials, local communities, indigenous (Iwi) leaders, businesses and local conservation groups to identify science-based solutions to poor water quality and runoff.” 

You can read at the link what else they’re up to. Clearly with their input our waterways are no cleaner and our clean water reserves are still either under threat, or being bottled and sent off shore for the sole benefit of foreign corporations that plunder us with impunity.

Please do educate yourself on the independent science on 1080. There’s a war going on for the public’s total blessing on a poison industry that flies in the face of reason regarding the humane treatment of animals. And that’s just one facet of the issue.

RELATED:

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https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/gareth-morgan-slams-sick-spca-in-facebook-rant/ar-BBRZGu1?ocid=sf&fbclid=IwAR3ZfQAlA_51hAoCqPs5YK4AhpbDR_gak3w44VETAQ7_P8cCX4vNM10Q70g

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/11/16/324825/gareth-morgan-nzs-inconvenient-truth


NOTE: For further articles on 1080 use categories at left of the news page.

If you are new to the 1080 poisoning program, a must watch is Poisoning Paradise, the doco made by the GrafBoys (banned from screening on NZ TV, yet a 4x international award winner). Their website is tv-wild.com. Their doco is a very comprehensive overview with the independent science to illustrate the question marks that remain over the use of this poison. There are links also on our 1080 resources page to most of the groups, pages, sites etc that will provide you with further information to make your own informed decision on this matter.

If you are pro poisoning of the environment, EnvirowatchRangitikei is not the place to espouse your opinions. Mainstream would be the place to air those. This is a venue for sharing the independent science you won’t of course find there.

Finally we don’t endorse violence in any way shape or form.

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A former mayor of Taupo who advocated banning of aerial 1080 exposes the`gravy train’ that is “making a small group of people rich”

An article from Stuff dated 2010, on the gravy train that is 1080. Much has been written on this topic (ie the gravy train aspect) including by the late Bill Benfield in his book The Third Wave. I will be posting his information in the near future. And another up-to-date article to come on the current folk driving the ‘train’.

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Former Taupo Mayor Rick Cooper opposed aerial 1080 drops Photo: Stuff

 

 

Controversy over 1080 erupted this month, with five protesters arrested for interfering with a poison drop. In Taupo, a fake bomb was discovered at a firm behind the drops. In the middle of the debate is Taupo mayor Rick Cooper, who believes a 1080 `gravy train’ is making a small group of people rich. Special investigation by Tony Wall.

RICK COOPER looks uncannily like the figure in the oil painting in his Taupo District Council office, right down to the open-neck blue shirt and grey blazer. The subject is not an ancestor or a former mayor, but TV mob boss Tony Soprano. The inspiration? “He shot the bastards, encased them in concrete. He is my mentor – `just get on with it’.”

He is joking, of course, but you suspect His Worship wouldn’t mind meting out some mob justice to those he believes are poisoning the environment with the aerial spread of 1080.

'You  keep finding the same people, the same names, and no one you can independently trust,' says  Cooper about what he terms the '1080 gravy train'.
‘You keep finding the same people, the same names, and no one you can independently trust,’ says Cooper about what he terms the ‘1080 gravy train’.

Although Cooper “hates” 1080 – “if I was prime minister I would ban it by lunchtime” – he has no problem with ground control, where the poison is laid by hand in bait stations, targeting possums only.

What enrages him is “indiscriminate aerial bombardment”, which he says is causing “carnage” in our forests, killing everything from insects and plants to birds, pigs, deer and domestic farm animals, as well as threatening waterways.

Cooper’s council has passed a resolution – six for and four against – to advocate for the abolition of aerial 1080 poisoning and to seek alternative possum eradication methods. The Westland District Council has passed a similar resolution and the mayor of Kaikoura has called for a 1080 ban, as a groundswell of opposition to the deadly poison, banned in most countries, builds.

The Department of Conservation, regional councils and the Animal Health Board use 1080 to control possums in order to protect forests and birdlife and to prevent the spread of bovine TB. In 2007, after a lengthy submissions process, the Environmental Risk Management Agency (Erma) found 1080 was safe and decided to allow its continued use, including aerial operations.

But that has not silenced opponents such as Cooper, who fired off emails to all the agencies involved, as well as Prime Minister John Key, in a desperate attempt to halt a 1080 drop over 26,000ha of the Kaingaroa State Forest east of Taupo this month.

The operation was unnecessary, Cooper says, as the terrain was easily accessible – “it’s flat country my grandmother could ride her bike around” – and could have been done by foot. He says the obsession with aerial operations is denying work to possum trappers and undermining the trade in meat and fur.

A 1080 “gravy train” keeps the aerial drops going, Cooper claims. There is too much money being made for them to be abolished, he says, conspiratorially. He talks of closed-door deals, conflicts of interest and a lack of transparency from the agencies involved. “I think it’s a bit like something died in the back paddock and hasn’t been buried.”

Cooper points to multimillion-dollar contracts awarded to a local firm, Epro Ltd, to spread 1080 from the air. Its director and co-owner, Roger Lorigan, used to work at Environment Waikato, which issues resource consents for 1080 work, in its pest management unit. A former colleague, Kevin Christie, also has his own firm, Ecofx based in Otorohanga, which has also won big contracts.

Their boss at Environment Waikato was John Simmons, now the biosecurity and natural heritage group manager at the council, in charge of pest management. In the late 90s, the council sold its possum control business to Lorigan and Christie, and Cooper claims they have been milking it ever since. However, his concerns were not shared by the auditor-general, who in a 2004 report found no evidence of any conflict of interest.

But Cooper remains suspicious. “It doesn’t matter where you go with this stuff, you keep finding the same people, the same names, and no one you can independently trust. My question is, what methodology did they use to sell those companies?”

Cooper has been challenging Environment Waikato chairman Peter Buckley on the issue. Buckley says he initially had concerns about how the companies were set up, but since becoming chairman has been satisfied that everything was above board. Lorigan says they were simply management buy-outs of pest destruction businesses, no different to those conducted by several other councils around the country. He says that 1080 contracts awarded to his firm are won fairly. “We just tender along with everyone else.”

Simmons says allegations of bias and closed-door deals were raised by a rival operator in 2004, and dismissed by the auditor-general. “It is disappointing that this has again surfaced unnecessarily.” He says Epro and Ecofx are experts in their field and, “I am sure the majority of ratepayers… have a high level of assurance in the professional manner in which the work is undertaken.”

A copy of the auditor-general’s report, provided to the Sunday Star-Times, shows that, while there was no evidence that Simmons had ever had any financial interest in Epro or Ecofx and there was nothing to suggest their relationship was inappropriate, there was another conflict, involving an “independent consultant” employed by the council to act as moderator and recorder in the 1080 contract process.

The person had a business relationship with both Epro and Ecofx, and while the council knew this, it had done nothing about it. Figures released to the Star-Times by Environment Waikato show it has paid around $2 million to Epro and Ecofx for aerial 1080 contracts over the past 10 years, but most of the contracts the firms won were with the Animal Health Board, which refuses to reveal payments for reasons of commercial sensitivity.

Epro and Ecofx recently applied for 10 and 20-year consents to continue aerial 1080 operations on a non-notified basis, although they later withdrew the applications and settled for year-long consents. (Their current 10-year consents are due to expire next month.)

“We kicked up such a stink they had to back out,” Cooper says. “That’s protecting your business isn’t it? Non-notified consents, 10 years for a poison. You can’t even put a bedroom on your house without a resource consent.”

Lorigan says Cooper’s allegations and inflammatory comments are inciting threats against his firm. Just a day after the Star-Times visited Epro this month, staff discovered a suspicious package – a 20-litre container with a clock and protruding wires – on machinery at its depot. Bomb disposal experts were called in and houses evacuated, but it was a hoax.

The incident came a day after two dogs died, apparently after eating 1080 pellets by the side of the Napier-Taupo highway. A friend of the owner later paraded the body of one of the dogs through the middle of Taupo in a wheelbarrow.

Lorigan says the bomb hoax proves anti-1080 protesters are “terrorists”.

“You just get sick of it, where’s it going to end? We’ve had threats and stuff like that, at the end of the day we’re just a contractor. That’s what drives me nuts, we’re just a business.

“Rick’s taking it very personal and that’s quite a shame. We’re a business that has employed 50 people, I find it very disappointing that a mayor can do that in his own town. Why isn’t he worried about how the town is going and promoting tourism?”

Cooper does not condone the bomb hoax, but says he understands the anger of whoever was behind it.

“There are a lot of disappointed people around this district that know the truth behind this madness. I’m glad I have no part in this diabolical 1080 nonsense because if I did, I fear I would have been tarred and feathered.”

COOPER IS an unlikely crusader against 1080. Your typical protester is a bearded, Swanndri-wearing bushwhacker, but Cooper made his fortune selling cars, owns half of the commercial real estate in Taupo – “I’m the biggest ratepayer in this town… $280,000 a quarter” – and races Mustangs in his spare time. He gives his $81,000 mayoral salary to charity.

But he is also a keen deer hunter and has “hated” 1080 most of his life. Soon after he won the mayoralty for the first time in 2007, Epro bungled a 1080 drop at Turangi.

“They were spraying 1080 all over the place down the bottom of the lake… they threw it across this place where these kids’ ponies were. I go down there… can you imagine the scene? You’ve got four horses thrashing and dying on the ground, one takes four days to die. I was going, `What is going on in this country? How in God’s name did a helicopter pilot biff this shit here, in this horse paddock?’ To this day those kids haven’t even had an apology.”

Epro, which failed to tell the owners to move the horses, was formally warned by Environment Waikato and a year later the regional council finally paid the owners $9100 compensation.

The incident convinced Cooper to campaign for the abolishment of aerial 1080 drops. He has spent so much time on the issue the past three years he has had to employ a “mayoral support officer”, Graham Sperry, who is chairman of the anti-1080 New Zealand Wildlands Biodiversity Management Society, to take up some of the 1080 workload.

Documentary maker Clyde Graf, whose film on 1080, Poisoning Paradise, has been nominated for awards in the UK, is a hunting companion of Cooper. He says for 1080 opponents, having the mayor in their corner has been invaluable.

“He’s a fairly staunch, brave sort of a guy,” Graf says. “He doesn’t get pushed around easily, he just stands up for what he believes in. His position as mayor, he’s not trying to defend [1080], he’s not sucking up to bureaucracies and the big bullies, following government policy – because 1080 is locked into government policy.”

But others are not so impressed.

The Conservation Department says it is “disappointed” the council has not recognised the “key role” aerial 1080 plays in protecting vulnerable wildlife such as kiwi, while the Animal Health Board, which spent $53m on possum control the past financial year, claims inaccurate comments have been made about the aerial use of the poison. Board chief executive William McCook disputes Cooper’s claim the east Taupo drop zone was flat country that could have been covered by foot.

He says the area is extensively forested and poses some “serious health and safety risks” for ground control operators. Aerial control is the most cost-effective method, he says, and provides even coverage. McCook says 80% of the operations in the region are ground based, using traps and poison.

Ailsa Gathergood, a Taupo district councillor and farmer who voted against the resolution to advocate for the abolishment of aerial 1080, says farmers are generally in favour of it to protect their cattle from TB. Birdlife in bush areas she has visited has bounced back after aerial drops, she says. Gathergood says farmers are feeling resentment that they did not get to put their side of the story before the council passed its resolution.

Will it cost Cooper votes? “We’ll see what happens at the next local body elections [in October],” she says.

Cooper claims not to care. “It could go either way, but I am true to my beliefs and I don’t give a shit if it sees me out of here – I’ll just go fishing.”

AT EPRO’S base on Broadlands Rd, there is a framed notice on the wall from Environment Waikato, praising the work the firm has done to prevent the spread of bovine TB.

Lorigan says in the mid 90s, Taupo had 250 cattle herds on movement control because of TB – today there are none. “Isn’t that pretty damn good?”

He confirms 1080 contracts have been worth millions to his firm, but denies it has made him wealthy. “Do you know any millionaire possum hunters?” Costs include helicopters, poison, staff and vehicles, he says.

Lorigan says aerial 1080 drops are more cost effective than ground control – helicopters can cover 20,000ha in two days, but the average man only 20ha a day. He believes 1080 is safe. Cooper claims a hunting estate Lorigan owns near the southern end of Lake Taupo has never had 1080 dropped on it, but Lorigan says that is simply not true. “I’m a mad-keen hunter, and I don’t have a problem with it [1080].”

Lorigan says incidents where pets and domestic farm animals have died after eating 1080 were “human error”, and he’s not talking his own.

“It’s not the poison’s fault. It’s like if a dog runs out on the road and gets run over, is it the car’s fault? It’s the owner, and that’s what the story is with most of the problems with 1080 – people don’t take responsibility for their own dogs or for their domestic animals, keeping them under control.”

That comment shows Lorigan’s lack of compassion, Cooper says, and points out that the horses Epro killed in 2007 were in their own paddock.

Cooper questions the need for 1080 at all. He says possums simply aren’t there any more. He recently went spotlighting and in four hours, saw just two possums. He and other 1080 opponents have tried to prise data from the AHB showing possum numbers before and after aerial operations.

The board refuses to supply the information, McCook telling the Star-Times: “The AHB does not provide data like that requested by Mr Cooper because it forms just one aspect of the decision to undertake a pest control operation.

“This data may be interpreted in isolation from other contributing and often complex technical information, which has the potential to give an incomplete and even misleading perspective of why an operation is to take place.”

This just adds fuel to Cooper’s fire. He suspects the numbers are being “cooked” to justify further drops and keep the gravy train running.

“A lot of focus has been on `these anti-1080 radicals’,” Cooper says. “The funny thing though, is the anti-1080 people have got none of this [money] at stake, and people who like 1080 have got lots of it at stake – the helicopter operator, the farmer, the Animal Health Board guys on a hundred and fifty f—— thousand a year, the guys with their three-piece suits driving around in their BMWs, and the Epros the Ecofxs.

“If we all put the flag up now and said, `we’ve got this under control, possum populations are right down, we don’t need you [aerial operators] any more’, what would happen? The gravy train would stop.”

For all his strong words, Cooper has been powerless to stop the drops – this month Epro completed the east Taupo drop, on behalf of the AHB. Environment Waikato and other regional councils issue resource consents for aerial drops, and each operation has to be approved by the medical officer of health for the district. Local councils can make submissions, but essentially are cut out of the decision-making loop.

Cooper says he will keep up his vocal campaign against the poison until those in power start listening.

“My job is to protect the environment and the inhabitants therein. How do we stop it? It’s a real good question. It’s a bit like starting on P – how do you get off the shit? The only way is people power – that’s all we’ve got.”

1080 – a controversial killer

Sodium monofluoroacetate, or 1080, has been used for about 50 years in New Zealand to control possums. It is a chemical reproduction of a naturally occurring, biodegradable toxin which exotic plants produce. It has accidentally killed dogs, deer, horses, cows, and birds after being dropped from the air.

The SPCA is against the poison because of the cruel way it kills – animals can take days to die. Proponents of its use say it breaks down in the environment – opponents say it is a threat to our waterways, not to mention our “clean, green” image. Possum numbers are estimated to be the same today – about 70 million – as decades ago.

Opponents of 1080 say this is evidence the poison programme hasn’t worked.

Supporters say without it, possum numbers would be even higher. New Zealand uses most of the world’s supplies of 1080, and it is banned in most other countries. It is imported from the US by Animal Control Products Ltd, a state-owned enterprise, which mixes the poison into cereal bait and sells it to contractors such as Epro.

The contractors are hired by the Conservation Department and regional councils, which want possums eradicated to protect birdlife and forests, and by the Animal Health Board, an incorporated society tasked with eradicating bovine tuberculosis, which could cost farmers billions if it gets out of control. For this reason, the powerful lobby group Federated Farmers supports the use of 1080, as does Forest and Bird. In 2007, the Environmental Risk Management Agency reviewed the use of 1080, taking submissions and eventually ruling the poison was safe and could continue to be used. Opponents say the review was a whitewash and relied on dodgy science. Some 1080 protesters have been labelled “terrorists”, after a 1080 contractor’s dog was deliberately fed 1080 on the West Coast in 2008, and just this month a fake bomb was left at Epro’s depot in Taupo.

Taupo man Chris Short epitomises the lengths 1080 opponents are prepared to go to make their point. In 1995, he hijacked a crop-spraying helicopter and forced the pilot to fly him into Tongariro National Park. He spent eight months in jail. Last year a terminally ill Short spent six days on Mt Tongariro protesting 1080. He vowed to die on the mountain but was eventually persuaded to come down.

Sunday Star Times

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/features/3855784/The-mayor-who-declared-war?fbclid=IwAR157yI4Zfpy2Dh-tU8-QfROqTQ7Azcg0huElKtD0Pd7F9xiultRVNFgAB4

 

Who’s challenging the beehive gravy train?

 

From William McGregor

Many people are good at what they do, and they earn a very lucrative salary doing it ….
The more they have, the quicker (& higher) they rise up the ladder of success; and good on them – in many cases they deserve it.

BUT – this is where it becomes grossly unfair.

Whether skippering Team N.Z. in a boat race, or earning a gold medal (or two at the Olympics) it’s the PEOPLE OF N.Z. who pay to fund these people on the road to their success.
A 17 year old golfer applied for quarter of a million bucks to pay for her coach’s fees…. she went on to win SEVEN FIGURES in prize money/bonus’s – I never heard her say “Oh, by the way, here’s that money I asked the people of N.Z. for, to start my life-style kick-start off – just thought I’d pay it back now that I’m doing O.K.”.

I believe we (the people of N.Z.) are going to PAY for the BIG BOYS to out-sail their boats against each other; to defend the America’s Cup.
STUFF IT – WHY SHOULD WE?!
You get off on doing this – YOU PAY FOR YOUR OWN ENTERTAINMENT!
You see, while the “Johnny Tucker-box” (on the street) pays (approx) a third of his income in TAXES, these RICH PEOPLE pay BUGGER ALL!

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More often than not, they even get a REBATE if their Accountant is any good!
I believe J.Key paid 2.8% taxes on what he declared – that DOESN’T take into account “investments” hidden away in BLIND TRUSTS!
ALL POLITICIANS have investments in BLIND TRUSTS – (thank you J.Key) ….and that’s wrong!

So, here’s the salt rubbed into the wound….
KNIGHTHOODS and Queen’s Honour Lists!

January the 1st, Queen’s B/Day and any other day “they” desire now – a mass of RICH PEOPLE get a LIFE-STYLE GUARANTEED for them & their Spouse/family FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES, at the expense of the people of N.Z.!
They’ve already ridden The Gravy Train Express during their working years, but now their LUST is INSATIABLE.

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Different country but the concept is the same

Throughout the Election build-up, NOT ONE PARTY has opened that can of worms …. they are ALL as bad as each other, and they all expect to get one (eventually) – J.Key took N.Z. into the GREATEST DEBT this Country has ever known, 🤔🙄😡& HE GOT ONE! GO FIGURE!

They (Knighthoods) were once RESERVED for the most EXTRAORDINARY of N.Z. people – (1st to climb the highest mountain in the world etc.) now they are given to Coaches (who were on MASSIVE Salaries anyway) or Sports people, friends of friends of Politicians …. almost ANYONE can get one – just as long as you move in the right circles.

They need to cease IMMEDIATELY. They are costing this country MORE DEBT than what they’re worth!
So, who’s going to ask the Leaders why they persist in keeping them?!
Yeah, that’s right ….. NO ONE! Pfffttt!!!