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With botulism ruled out 3 days in, and 1080 a suspected cause, still we were told the poisoned Waikato family had botulism

Very unfortunate, because although 1080 was suspected early on, they didn’t test for it until EIGHTEEN days later. As the esteemed & so called health professionals would have known at the time, testing for it after 7 days is useless as all presence of 1080 would be gone from the urine & that is according to DoC’s own documentation. So the tests would have been USELESS. (See Charles Eason’s Vertebrate Pesticides Toxicology Manual for further details). This would explain why the family had such difficulty in acquiring their medical notes in the first instance.

So … unfortunate? Or deliberate? Why in a suspected poisoning ask yourself, do you NOT test for the glaringly obvious? And even more importantly, why do you keep telling the public via the media that the diagnosis is botulism when three days in that diagnosis has been eliminated. And by a SPECIALIST. The media (stuff) was headlining ‘botulism’ on 4th December still – the poisoning occurred on 10th November.  We published an article on 10th December with comments from a Neuroscientist (who wished to remain anonymous) posing questions about the diagnosis & claiming the symptoms did not match botulism:

“Rehabilitation from sub lethal 1080 poisoning is simple. Time.
Botulism treatment takes a long time, years. Whereas recovery from sub lethal 1080 poisoning is much faster.
This family could have been treated for alzheimers, for mumps, for shellfish poisoning, for botulism, for polio, for meningitis. The results would be the same, they would recover.
The timeline of the recovery is just as diagnostic as the timeline of the illness, and the time line does NOT fit botulism” … Serena Maja, Neuroscientist

Then next up were revelations from the family through an interview by the Graf Boys at TV-Wild.

So on top of all of the above, unbelievably, they did NOT test the meat for 1080!! Is this not all screaming ‘cover up’? Go figure.

The article below is from mainstream media with the family’s lawyer expressing concern. For a change mainstream is challenging the official stories. Quite rare really, however they still fail to really nail the authorities down to a why? Why did they not test the meat, or why did they not test the family earlier? Then wander off into the possibilities of mushrooms or other plant life, still skirting that 1080 issue. The point is, the authorities in question have been caught with their proverbial pants down, and are still remaining silent.

You should be concerned that we have a large public hospital here that appears to be officially lying to the public, going by their own notes  “… there was no evidence to suggest botulism”. This has implications for your future treatment should you fall ill and be at their mercy. Worse, should you fall ill from suspected 1080 poisoning, you should be very concerned in light of what happened to the young woman in 2006 whose heart incredibly, the NZ lab lost.

May we finally hear some truth on all of this.

Note: to read all articles on this topic scroll to the end of this article for a timeline, or for all articles on 1080 use the categories drop down box at left of the news page.

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Poisoned Waikato family’s medical notes concerning, lawyer says

From stuff.co.nz

Medical notes about a mystery poisoning that plunged three family members into a coma suggest inadequate testing, the family’s spokeswoman says.

Shibu Kochummen, 35, his wife Subi Babu, 33, and his mother Alekutty Daniel, 62, were found in a vegetative stateon the floor of their Putaruru home on November 10 shortly after eating a wild boar curry.

Botulism was the original – but incorrect – diagnosis. And nerve conduction tests as early as November 13 – three days after the trio’s hospitalisation – indicated the illness wasn’t botulism, the family’s lawyer and spokeswoman Sue Grey said after obtaining the medical notes.
“The diagnosis was that there was no evidence to suggest botulism. A specialist was asked to look at [it] and that was his conclusion. “That does raise questions about why the health board was continuing to say it was botulism for such a long time after they had so many results indicating it wasn’t.
“If that botulism thing [was] ruled out at the start when the first negative tests were coming in they would have had ACC by now.
“There are politics but you’d like to think that politics aren’t interfering with medicine.”
The DHB have ruled the illness an unidentified poisoning from an unspecified neurotoxin.
The illness caused paralysis, vomiting, thrashing, memory loss and strange behaviour such as child-like laughing.
Grey said she hadn’t seen any food tests other than the negative botulism result from the pork dish consumed.
“When we met with the CEO on Wednesday he told us that MPI, the Ministry of Primary Industries, had done the food sample tests. So I’ve written and asked them for their information but I still haven’t got that back.”
While the MPI have an “informal” involvement in the case, they are not testing implicated food, a spokesperson said.

“The Waikato DHB is the lead agency and MPI had a very minimal involvement at the initial stages in working with ESR (Institute of Environmental Science and Research) on some testing procedures,” the spokesperson said in a statement.

“We do not believe there are any public health concerns as this incident/issue appears to be confined to one particular family.”

Grey said she’s still going through the family’s notes but understands 1080 was an early suspected cause.
“That is really concerning because as far as we can ascertain at the moment, the only testing that was done on 1080 was that single test 18 days after [hospitalisation].”

Professor Steve Flint, an expert in food safety and microbiology at Massey University, said he hoped more food testing had been conducted by MPI or the DHB.

“My surprise – from what I’ve read from media reports –  is that there isn’t a full scale investigation into this.

“I’m quite surprised that no one has actually looked at the food and analysed the food.”

Toxins in some kind of plant could have caused the violent illness, Flint said.

“[Wild] mushrooms can also be quite toxic. You get almost hallucinogenic.

“There’s always the possibility of something that we haven’t discovered yet, something new.

“If it is, it would be unusual but this whole scenario is unusual.

“In a country like New Zealand, you often think about our native plants and things that people may not have reported any illnesses from.

“If it’s not botulism then what is it, because we need to know.”

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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/100346840/poisoned-waikato-familys-medical-notes-concerning-lawyer-says