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PETITION: to ensure that the use of any coronavirus vaccine in NZ is voluntary and that no coercion will be applied

With the pulling down of The Highwire YT channel recently (200K
subscribers), It just further confirms the rampant censorship around
the world from BigTech on important topics.


You will understand there’s a building narrative in NZ of a miracle
coronavirus vaccine being just over the elusive horizon. Public debate
should be held on the safety of any potentially rushed vaccine and of
the possibility of mandatory or coercive use of the vaccine(s) here in
NZ.
Supplied below is a link to a petition on the NZ Government website, which sadly allows very little space for the info of the petition to be conveyed.

Petition request: That the House of Representatives urge the
Government to ensure that the use of any coronavirus vaccine is
voluntary in New Zealand and that no coercion will be applied to NZers
from Government or private entities to take it.


Here is a short video posted on YT and Bitchute promoting this petition
with an attached google docs link plus show notes of evidence and
further information etc (see below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=O–hz53ACVo

https://www.bitchute.com/video/j354zz3qoOc7/

Now that the petition is an official document and has been posted on
the NZ Government’s website, it is hoped that this has at least protected the topic somewhat in NZ, hopefully enabling room for uncensored public debate on this topic.

Here is the link to the google docs file supplying background information and references for this petition:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14yU3V_3WPWDlrZJ-DWi00Af23LJjzODGMGk3tZBX-3A/edit

LINK TO THE PETITION:

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/petitions/document/PET_99608/petition-of-sacha-stevenson-taking-any-coronavirus-vaccine

Image by Bao_5 from Pixabay

“The Science” around Covid-19: Conversations for Kiwis about our shared future… Ep 2

Tribe of Kiwis

Conversations for Kiwis about our shared future.

Ep 2 discusses “”The Science” around Covid-19. Sources and links in the Show Notes below (click on “SHOW MORE”) SUMMARY Begins by asking “Is the science REALLY settled?” around #Covid19 (and a potential vaccine), and then asks “Is the medical community ALL in AGREEMENT?” The video is structured around some key areas of debate in the medical community, including areas in which “trusted sources” have behaved in inconsistent ways. It ends with a statement of the “right and duty” of ordinary, non-medically trained citizens to pay attention to, and participate in, the debate about “the science” and actions that should be taken in the light of it. All SOURCES , More Information and Credits: See the SHOW NOTES: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N… COPYRIGHT CREDITS (in video order) and thanks to: “FAIR USE” video and sound clips These are included under “Fair Use” provisions for the purposes of education, discussion and commentary. Dr Sam Bailey (24 Apr 2020) “The Truth About Social Distancing” https://youtu.be/lf6yBeXmzCo Journeyman Pictures (9 Apr 2020) “Perspectives on the Pandemic – Episode 3 Dr David Katz” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK0Wt… Journeyman Pictures (17 Apr 2020 full interview) “Perspectives on the Pandemic | Dr. John Ioannidis Update: 4.17.20 | Episode 4” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwPqm… UnHerd (17 Apr 2020) “Swedish Expert – Why lockdowns are the wrong policy ” Johan Giesecke” https://youtu.be/bfN2JWifLCY The HighWire (17 Apr 2020) “Doctors treating COVID” https://youtu.be/zgz5hRV2V-E LondonReal (19 May 2020) “100 Voices Strong – Dr. Rashid Buttar Hosts A Doctor’s Covid-19 Roundtable” https://londonreal.tv/dr-rashid-butta… News Max TV clip (21 Jan 2020) Dr Anthony Fauci speaking to News Max https://youtu.be/COqaUaQa9P8 Fox News (10 Apr 2020) “Dr. Fauci on criticism of coronavirus modeling” https://youtu.be/URZB0Cp0mW0 CNN (19 Apr 2020) CEO of YouTube, Susan Wojcicki, announces new policy changes, re “REMOVE” https://youtu.be/YsLKs8kye7k BBC: Lord Sumption (former member of the UK Supreme Court & 2019 Reith Lecturer) (30 Mar 2020) [BBC 17:00] [YouTube] https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00…https://youtu.be/JHE3OerDKEY LICENSED clips “Sunrise” video – Bellergy (Pixabay licence) In Intro & Outro: “Last Days” Lyrics, music and performance © S Stevenson (with permission)

Selling sickness: the pharmaceutical industry and disease mongering

By Ray Moynihanjournalist,a Iona Heathgeneral practitioner,b and David Henryprofessor of clinical pharmacologyc

A lot of money can be made from healthy people who believe they are sick. Pharmaceutical companies sponsor diseases and promote them to prescribers and consumers. Ray Moynihan, Iona Heath, and David Henry give examples of “disease mongering” and suggest how to prevent the growth of this practice

There’s a lot of money to be made from telling healthy people they’re sick. Some forms of medicalising ordinary life may now be better described as disease mongering: widening the boundaries of treatable illness in order to expand markets for those who sell and deliver treatments., Pharmaceutical companies are actively involved in sponsoring the definition of diseases and promoting them to both prescribers and consumers. The social construction of illness is being replaced by the corporate construction of disease.

Whereas some aspects of medicalisation are the subject of ongoing debate, the mechanics of corporate backed disease mongering, and its impact on public consciousness, medical practice, human health, and national budgets, have attracted limited critical scrutiny.

Within many disease categories informal alliances have emerged, comprising drug company staff, doctors, and consumer groups. Ostensibly engaged in raising public awareness about underdiagnosed and undertreated problems, these alliances tend to promote a view of their particular condition as widespread, serious, and treatable. Because these “disease awareness” campaigns are commonly linked to companies’ marketing strategies, they operate to expand markets for new pharmaceutical products. Alternative approaches—emphasising the self limiting or relatively benign natural history of a problem, or the importance of personal coping strategies—are played down or ignored. As the late medical writer Lynn Payer observed, disease mongers “gnaw away at our self-confidence.”

READ MORE

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1122833/

Photo: Image by Phoenix Locklear from Pixabay

Inquiring about risks vs benefits of vaccines in NZ now makes you a “flat earther” or worse a “murderer” – the all out censorship by mainstream media of the vaccine dialogue

Last week amidst a measles outbreak in Christchurch, social media has been in full on discussion about vaccines with an article by TV1 news featuring Nigel Latta, another prominent person weighing in on a borderline push insisting that parents vaccinate their children. To see what is behind this new enlistment of support to bully you into vaccinating, see the video titled Free Speech and Shutting Down the Vaccine Debate by Truthstream Media. Google, Amazon & Facebook are all involved in this.  And meanwhile, Duncan Garner has labeled anybody who refuses to vaccinate a ‘murderer’. Note, nary a mention of all the babies who have died following vaccination.

Let me say at the outset, vaccination in NZ is not compulsory. See the official email from the NZ Health Dept website below.

These prominent persons who are waving their self assumed ‘authority’ over you & your families under your noses, should in my opinion concentrate more on urging parents to obtain all the scientific literature from both sides of the vaccination issue before proceeding with their own informed & well researched decision that will benefit their children. Same as we should on any proposed medical procedure. Instead, Latta has likened such thinking folk to flat earthers.

Recently we posted a video featuring talk back radio where a young mother who is also a psychology graduate & whose six week old baby was vaccine injured, made a plea for full disclosure by the health professionals of the possible risks vs the possible benefits of a vaccine. One hour after vaccination, this young mother says her baby woke up screaming & over two days turned into a floppy rag doll with a high pitched shrill moan … his brain was swelling. Listen to her speak in the following short clip.

So according to Latta’s thinking, anybody who questions this medical procedure (what are the contents of the vaccine? Are there any side effects to consider? and so on) are actually  “as legitimate as those at the Flat Earth Society”. Surely this young woman’s desire to be informed of the said risks vs benefits should not qualify her to be considered by health professionals as a conspiracy theorist?

I’m very disappointed as I really admired Latta’s  work with the Shadowlands series.  Yet on this issue he clearly is not for our parental right of choice. There are now enough testimonies from parents of deceased babies & disabled children who wish they had been informed of the risks and who cannot now turn back the clock. If you doubt that please visit the Vaxxed Youtube channel & hear all the heartbroken parents speaking out. View the before & after videos of their precious little ones, changed forever. Any parent’s worst nightmare. The disturbing thing about that is their numbers are increasing. To not weigh up the risks of injury versus the benefits, in light of the current available information, would in my opinion be very irresponsible.

This is not however how the medical establishment sees this. They want you to get the vaccine, no questions asked. Hitler would be proud.

With respect to the parental right to decline a vaccine, folk have been sharing their experiences recently following the post of an article about children of non consenting parents being pressured by nurses at their schools to be vaccinated regardless of their parents’ wishes. A blatant violation of human rights. Details are in this article:

CHILDREN OF NZ PARENTS WHO HAD DECLINED THE HPV VAX WERE TAKEN ASIDE AT SCHOOL, TOLD THEIR PARENTS DIDN’T LOVE THEM AND COERCED FOR THEIR CONSENT

Parents having read this article made the following comments in social media:

My daughters were approached by nurses at school “gently” encouraging them to persuade me, they also rang me to question my judgment….I’M THE PARENT not them how dare they question my decisions for my daughters.

I’ve had lengthy conversations with my 11 and a half year old about this..today he said his teacher was telling them all they have to get vaccinated to keep them safe and asking them questions like “you do want to be safe and live don’t you?” , the teacher proceeded to tell the kids they needed to go home this evening and tell their parents that they need to make an appointment with the doctor asap…they have a vaccination program for the year 8s at his school and I told him he has my full permission to refuse and if they pressure him to demand to be able to call me or run away from the area that they are vaccinating.

I received HPV vaccination over 12 years ago now, when my mum sent in a form that said she didn’t consent to me receiving it. I gave it to the nurse who tossed it in the bin, then gave it to me anyways.. when I got home I told my mum & the next day she called a meeting with the school principal, vice principal and all my teachers and went offfff. After that day they didn’t even bother giving me any forms for vaccinations because they didn’t want my mum to come down to the school again.

When my boy was attending Intermediate school they were being targeted for diptheria, tetanus pertussis (triple vaccine) and as a parent I rang to ask where was the info for the parents. Answer was “oh we don’t do this anymore and hardly anyone turns up” So I was invited along to an assembly where they addressed all the kids. My boy had been sent on an errand unbeknown to me and when the session was finished he turned up almost in tears as he had “missed out”. Now the session included a video of propaganda showing an old school photo of a class with circles around a few pupils (can’t remember which way around it was to use as an example who was spreading disease). The Deputy Principal allowed for questions of the 2 DHB nurses present. One South African boy asked what bad reactions could happen and the nurse had to acknowledge “anaphylactic shock”. I raised my hand to ask a question and the DP gave me the most evil look then promptly closed the whole session down and sent everyone back to class. What hope is there if the teachers are propagandised leaves me worried and wondering …..

Parents now also need to be aware that some children are being prescribed anti-depressants without parental consent.

Clearly some medical staff are taking it upon themselves to apply pressure to children which is not acceptable. As to prescribing anti depressants without parental consent, that is definitely crossing the line. Watch your children parents. Listen to them. And be involved & know what is happening at their schools. Make it clear to those concerned what your expectations are regarding any health procedure.

Note also the right of choice has also been removed from the staff of a Christchurch school regarding their own choice to vaccinate. Unvaccinated teachers face a fine of $2,000:

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/christchurch/canterbury-school-to-fine-unvaccinated-teachers/?fbclid=IwAR2ecYyY3vLkDUhRdAXYLnHxm0C1pkTTJvrAk1v8uhZ3xujK3UCEVtykOzQ>

To conclude here is a reply from the NZ government’s health website to the question:

Please advise if immunisation in New Zealand is compulsory or that it is up to the person and/or parents to make that decision. Your website is not very clear on all of this.

From: info@health.govt.nz <info@health.govt.nz>

To: xxxx (name supplied)

Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019, 9:45:57 AM GMT+13

Subject: Re: Immunisation

Good morning,

Thank you for your email.  Getting immunised is voluntary in New Zealand, and it is an individual’s (or parent’s/guardian’s) choice whether or not they or their child agree to being immunised.  

Note under the Health (Immunisation) Regulations 1995 all early childhood education centres and primary schools must maintain an immunisation register, and may request that the caregiver provides their child’s immunisation certificate or record that the child is not immunised.

Your health practitioner will be able to provide you with information that will allow you to make an informed choice.  Health professionals have a duty to give honest and open information about any medical treatment, which includes immunisations.  This ensures that the individual or parent/guardian is able to give their full consent to the immunisation.  The individual or parent/guardian needs to understand the benefits and risks of immunisation, including those to the child and their community, in order to make an informed choice and give informed consent.

The information about immunisation on our website is based on the overwhelming body of scientific evidence that shows the benefits of immunisation far outweigh its risks. This position underpins the health systems of every country in the world.  Another website you may find useful is that of the Immunisation Advisory Centre (IMAC), which provides independent information about vaccine-preventable diseases and the benefits and risks of immunisation (http://www.immune.org.nz).

Kind regards,

Deborah

Ministry of Health

PO Box 5013

Wellington 6145

Free phone: 0800 855 066

Phone: (04) 496 2000

Healthline: 0800 611 116

Email: info@health.govt.nz

Website:www.health.govt.nz


Note: Equally disturbing as all of the above is the strict censorship that is happening around the Christchurch shooting that came on the heels of this. There’s been huge censorship right across social media & elsewhere of late, such that it surely raises red flags of caution. 

Please do check out the Vaxxed YT channel for injuries and deaths. People need to know what they may be in store for. Also, watch the movie Vaxxed:

Shutting down the vaccine dialogue – Google, Amazon, Facebook

Published on Mar 17, 2019

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Mainstream is now telling us vaccines are not a personal choice at all … please tell me when it was NZ became a police state?

“Personal choice is a beautiful thing. You should have the freedom to live the life that makes you happiest, even if it seems strange to other people.

But only if you’re not hurting anyone else.

This is exactly the problem with the so-called “vaccination debate”.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11961150


 

Please read the real history of vaccines and the medical ‘health’ system …

https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2018/02/17/the-real-history-of-the-western-medical-vaccine-industries-that-you-werent-told-pt-1/    (Part 2 next week)

Read also how the medical industry was created and how the Rockefellers did away with natural medicine (by design), now called alternative and debunked by many as quackery…

HOW MODERN MEDICINE BECAME A MONOPOLY
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/mainstream-vs-holistic-medicine-the-unknown-history/

Read / watch also of the successes recorded regarding natural medicine with the so called incurables like cancer and diabetes that are killing people in multitudes (you will find other articles on topic under ‘categories’) ….

https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/links-to-information-on-alternatives/
Read also about so called ‘herd immunity’ that is their justification against personal choice… debunked by a Harvard immunologist …

https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/12/02/a-harvard-immunologist-has-written-an-open-letter-explaining-why-unvaccinated-children-pose-no-risk-to-their-vaccinated-counterparts/

A vaccinated person carries the disease they were vaccinated for, “shedding” it, for up to 6 weeks.

 

And finally, if you want more reasons for personal choice browse these articles…

https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/?s=immunity

… and this one in particular…

TWENTY VACCINE FACTS YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE YOU VACCINATE…

  1. Vaccine manufacturers have NO liability (National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986), so CANNOT be sued for injury from their product and they have no incentive to make their product as safe as possible.
  2. Vaccines are not held to the same double blind gold standard of clinical testing as other pharmaceutical drugs because they are considered biological products under the Public Health Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act. They meet the same standards as cosmetics.
  3. The per vaccine Federal Excise Tax is used to pay the vaccine injured through the government-created National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP). $3.1 Billion has been paid to date (through 2015).
  4. Vaccines contain neurotoxins (aluminum and mercury) far exceeding “safe levels” deemed by the EPA.
  5. Vaccines contain cancer-causing ingredients, and have never been tested if they cause cancer, infertility or DNA mutation (Section 13.1 of every vaccine package insert).
  6. Some vaccines are made from aborted fetal cell lines. (WI-38 and MC5-5 Human Cell Fibroblasts)
  7. Vaccines are not 100% effective and a vaccinated person can get the disease they were vaccinated for.
  8. A vaccinated person carries the disease they were vaccinated for, “shedding” it, for up to 6 weeks.
  9. The concept of herd/community immunity cannot be achieved by vaccines because vaccines are NOT 100% effective. Unlike lifetime immunity afforded by disease, vaccine-induced immunity lasts 2-10 years.
  10. Doctors receive financial rewards from insurance companies for having patients fully vaccinated (~$400 per patient). They are advised NOT to share all the risks or the vaccine package inserts, so 100% informed choices cannot be made in a doctor’s office when vaccinating.
  11. Vaccine injury is under-reported. VAERS is the only way to officially report a vaccine injury and is tedious with no incentive for a doctor to fill it out.
  12. Vaccine mandates (like SB277 and SB792 in CA) literally hand over new customers to pharmaceutical companies, and remove rights to choose what is injected into a person’s body.
  13. Pharmaceutical companies spend up to 19 times more on advertising than they do on research.
  14. Corporate mainstream media gets 70% of their advertising revenue from pharmaceutical companies.
  15. Vaccine safety and efficacy research is not conducted by independent researchers and so is biased.
  16. The full CDC recommended vaccine schedule has never been tested. Vaccinated children are the human experiment.
  17. All vaccines can cause injury or death, and there is no way to tell who will have a reaction.
  18. Most doctors receive 30 MINUTES on vaccine education (that they are safe, effective and a must) during their 8 YEARS in medical school.
  19. If someone dies from a vaccine, their family will be awarded no more than $250,000. Most cases of vaccine injury are dismissed because doctors and vaccine manufacturers deny a causation link.  The statutory time limit for filing a claim is only 2 years after death and 3 years from the time of vaccine injury.
  20. The government plan “Healthy People 2020” has a goal to fully vaccinate all children and adults by 2020. There are 217 new vaccines being created right now.

http://avoiceforchoice.org/issues/pharmaceuticals-and-vaccines/20-vaccine-facts/