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Aussie Police to get AR-15 30-shot semi-automatic rifles… giving police snipers greater authority to shoot to kill

Growing trend isn’t it? Police armed to the teeth. Citizens on the other hand disarmed.

From theage.com.au

More than 700 police will be trained to use high-powered semi-automatic rifles, with frontline officers expected to take immediate action to confront terror attacks and active armed offenders.

Deputy Commissioner Shane Patton said on Wednesday that police will buy 300 AR-15 30-shot semi-automatic rifles, with the guns expected to be delivered by the middle of next year.

Police from the public order response team (PORT) and four regional hubs – Geelong, Ballarat, Morwell and Shepparton – will be trained to use the rifles, each valued at nearly $6000.

The semi-automatic rifles are part of an increasingly hard-line response to the threat of armed offenders which includes giving police snipers greater authority to shoot to kill.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/police-to-get-high-powered-guns-in-drive-to-sweep-terror-off-streets-20191218-p53l04.html?fbclid=IwAR2G6J013Xwjl9I5G8t9wIsTvPmgB1e0roP3kGX6WdHFxyJXS4ooP0DIAMc

Complaints re NZ’s Police Raids – they’re setting citizen against citizen … when does “vigilant” become “vindictive”?

 

From Carol Sawyer

Featuring an article from Stuff:

Gun owners upset by ‘heavy-handed’ police raids complain to IPCA:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/112872575/complaints-about-heavyhanded-raids-on-gun-owners-land-at-ipca?fbclid=IwAR24tHJo3mi91ZXCEBsZ2Vxa3_hWtibaU6yB5CaR3oNOMdXgdyyL9-aYf8k


 

“These visits are carried out as a result of police receiving information about concerning behaviour. Many of these are from members of the public who are being vigilant as we have asked them to be and have rightly passed their concerns on to police.”

Also in another news item:

“Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced on Thursday two more groups of semi-automatic guns would be classified as military-style semi-automatic firearms following Christchurch’s terror attacks.

  • Semi-automatic firearm that can be used in combination with detachable magazine (other than one designed to hold 0.22-inch or smaller rimfire cartridges), and capable of holding more than five cartridges
  • Semi-automatic shotgun capable of being used in combination with a detachable magazine that can hold more than five cartridges”

 

March 24, 2019, Stuff

 

Photo Credit: newstalkzb.co.nz

In NZ’s frenzied quest for gun seizures a 12 YO girl is still shaken after 30 armed Police raided her family’s property & pointed a gun at her

“The worst thing was they pointed a rifle at my 12-year-old daughter who was picking up horse poo. They told her to put the fork down and walk towards them. She is still anxious and shaken. The whole family is.”


Why is it necessary, in the quest for seizing guns from adults to ‘protect the public’ (so we are told) to terrorize young children? How is that conducive to protecting the public, the rationale that is being given for this sudden strange turn of events? Do these Police persons not have children themselves? Are they not trained to realize the trauma that this behaviour will embed in a child’s memory …. for life? This is the stuff of movies & it’s happening right here in New Zealand. It is not new however. This same behaviour occurred in 2007 when the Tuhoe people in Te Urewera (who are no strangers to illegal Police raids) were raided & similarly, armed offenders boarded a school bus, terrorizing little children.

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Armed Police at a road block in the 2007 Te Urewera raid on the Tuhoe peopl

They also detained a family with little ones, one of them a four year old, in their family garage with no food, water or toilet for NINE hours. To update yourself on that one, watch ‘Operation 8’ on Youtube.  If you listen to the first minute of the video you will hear a 12 year old child describing what happened:

I saw all these people in black, and this man had a dog and it was right behind me and, just saw all these lights and, these guns, and it was really scary. All of us had to get down on our knees and put our hands on our heads. They asked for my name, did I know anything about terrorist things, or if I’ve been in trouble with the Police … I just started crying, and crying and … my nan tried to come over to me and asked me if I was okay, and then the Policeman behind us said ‘Shut up, don’t talk to her’ and moved closer towards me and pointed the gun down at my head.   Oct 15 2007

Those children would not sleep in their bedrooms for three months after this event, they were so afraid. They all slept together in their lounge. Shame on the NZ Police. Protecting the public? Really? When you see images of these armed offenders (see image above) they are enough to strike terror into the heart of an adult let alone a child. It all really beggars belief. Was this all a warm up for today’s scenarios?

Do read the article below, it’s from mainstream’s Stuff even (which surely tells you something). Pontificate on what has happened to your country Kiwis. The article describes a similar raid on another person.


Police seize gun collector’s firearms in ‘over the top’ raid

stuff.co.nz

A community-minded contractor who dug the mass grave for victims of the mosque shootings for free says police went “way over the top” in raiding his house to seize his 11 firearms.

The colourful figure – who asked not to be named for security reasons but whose record of helping out people in the community and raising money is known to have endeared him to many – said about 30 police raided his west Christchurch block on April 2 about 5pm while he was still at work.

Some were Armed Offenders Squad members and others were in ordinary police uniform. A specialist search squad searched his house, outbuildings and a granny flat housing his 80-year-old mother.

Up to 30 police officers raided a gun collector's home and seized 11 firearms. (File photo).
Photo: stuff.co.nz

“They even went through her underwear drawer. The worst thing was they pointed a rifle at my 12-year-old daughter who was picking up horse poo. They told her to put the fork down and walk towards them. She is still anxious and shaken. The whole family is.”

Police then rang him at work. He arranged to stand in the middle of the yard and asked the police to leave their guns in their vehicles.

“They still pointed their guns at me and made me walk towards them with my hands up. I got to them and said, “put that away before you hurt yourself”.”

He is now waiting for an explanation. He does not believe police were acting on a tip that he was dangerous. Police refused to comment, citing privacy – despite the man providing a privacy waiver.

“Unfortunately for privacy reasons we can’t respond to requests which seek to confirm whether specific individuals have made complaints to police, or if police have attended a specific address,” a police spokesperson said.

Some of the officers were from the Armed Offenders Squad, while others were in ordinary police uniform.
ROBYN EDIE/STUFF
Some of the officers were from the Armed Offenders Squad, while others were in ordinary police uniform.

The man said: “I’ve seen them raid the Headhunters with less firepower than they raided us. It was just out of this world. Way over the top.”

He accepts police might have wanted a chat with him because after the mosque shootings, he had bought an AR15 rifle, from Gun City. The mosque shooter used an AR15 class rifle and they are now banned under new arms legislation.

rush of gun sales was reported in the aftermath of the March 15 mosque shooting after it was announced gun laws would change. The AR15 is amongst the most popular as a semi-automatic sporting rifle often used for deer, goat and pig hunting, as well as competitive target shooting.

“But all they needed to do was ring me and say we are coming around for a chat. If I was really up to no good I would have bought a firearm off the internet. Everyone knows that.”

The contractor said he had had a firearms licence since 1982 and had been shooting as a sport since he was 12.

He collected firearms and had two other AR15 rifles before the shooting.

When he bought the firearm, he thought he would be able to keep the gun under a grandfather arrangement where those who owned the guns before the law change would be allowed to keep them.

“It would have told a story.”

His confidence in the police had gone down to about zero, he said.

All his guns were confiscated in the raid and he is now trying to get them back.

“This didn’t need to happen. I’m not a criminal. They could have made a few other checks and seen I was not a risk.

He had two assault convictions from 35 years ago and had been out of trouble since, he said.

An Ashburton farm manager, who also declined to be named, told Stuffhe was also angry about the way he was treated by the police.

He was in his garage searching through his deep freezer shortly after eating lunch on Thursday when his wife told him there were some police officers coming up the drive.

“There were about three armed police that came out from the back of my section, and three more units pulled up at the driveway.”

Of the 14 police officers, eight were “heavily armed”.

The officers wanted to speak to him about the terror attacks, his views on police, Muslims and other religions. He was then asked if anyone was home.

“I said ‘no, my kids are at school’. Then they sent a team in to clear the house like in the movies, going into each room guns pointed clearing the house.”

The man said the officers told him the hour-long visit was initiated in part because he purchased an A-category AR15 from Gun City a day after the March 15 terror attack. His gun, which was being held in a secure safe, was seized, along with some other items including a scope and ammunition.

He told Stuff he travelled from Ashburton to Christchurch after the attack to buy the gun because he had always wanted one. His wife was planning on buying him one for his birthday in June, and was worried they would become harder to buy.

“It was probably the wrong decision but I thought if I don’t get one now I may miss the opportunity.”

He said he was not racist or anti-Islamic.

“I said so I’m not a fan but I understand there are good people out there, there are good Muslims. I’m not a fan of the religion but I’m not going to go out and kill people.”

He said the number of police officers was over the top and believed a call or visit from a local police officer would have been enough.

“I can’t understand why they needed that many armed police to come in here to ask me my views on this and then seize my gun.”

Stuff

READ MORE & VIEW VIDEOS AT THE LINK:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/112634121/police-seize-gun-collectors-firearms-in-over-the-top-raid?fbclid=IwAR3c5baiUKwqLOdVK4EADNtOdvRp6ayahaDe4tLbDt_O5if1LY57rIAegn8

Header Photo, NZ Armed Offender : wikipedia.co.nz (note not from the actual incident)