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Wild boar meal victims take recovery day by day

From day one a Doctor attending this family suspected 1080 poisoning & advised testing for it. The tests were not done. For our background information to the story, go to this page: 
SUSPECTED 1080 POISONING CASES

From Stuff.co.nz

Pleading with the emergency operator to “hurry up, hurry up, hurry up,” Shibu Kochummen’s last thought before he collapsed was of a dead dog.

The local hunter who supplied the wild boar to him had said when Kochummen picked up the meat that his dog had died.

“I remember falling down and saying, oh, that hunter told me his dog died. I asked him how and he said it was poison or something. That’s why I thought the food we ate made us sick.”

It was Kochummen’s last thought for three weeks.

He would wake from a coma strapped to his bed at Waikato Hospital.

“I asked what the date was,” he said. “I was in shock at that. I can’t feel like 20 days had passed. It felt like a dream.”

His wife felt the same when she awoke.

“I thought I had only been hospital for one day,” Babu said. “I thought I had better get to work and why am I still here?”

At 3.30am on November 16, Kochummen woke in pain. His wife, Subi Babu, was vomiting and shaking. He started suffering the same symptoms.

Kochummen found strength and called on his mother in the guest room of their Putaruru home. “I said, ‘Are you okay?’ ” he said. “She said no and fell down. I went to call the ambulance.”

All three had eaten a wild pork curry for dinner about six hours before. Their two children, aged seven and one, didn’t eat the dish.

Doctors and friends filled them in on the details of their illness and symptoms. It was sobering to hear. The three had to be lashed to their beds as they were prone to thrashing around. At other times they would laugh uncontrollably like children.

While this was happening, doctors were at a loss trying to determine the cause of the illness.

Clinical notes obtained by family and written by doctors at 9am on November 16 said the patients had encephalopathy, a general term that means brain disease, damage, or malfunction. The possible causes were listed as “1080 poisoning, botulism, typhoid encephalopathy.”

Botulism was thought to be the cause of the illness, as the family seemed to respond to treatment for that, but on December 15 a test of the food for the food-borne illness came back negative. Waikato DHB said tests for 1080 also came back negative.

A working diagnosis of food poisoning meant the three were ineligible for ACC cover. They also faced a huge medical bill for Kochummen’s mother, 62-year-old Alekutty Daniel, a foreign national.

“Because we are both not working and the hospital bills, we cannot afford to pay it in our lives,” Babu said.

“That’s why our lawyer is helping us with our ACC.”

Progress has been made. The Waikato DHB wrote a letter to ACC after a request from the family’s lawyer, after it was determined botulism was no longer considered the cause of the illness. A copy of that letter was given to the familiy’s lawyer at an urgent meeting with acting DHB chief executive Derek Wright.

The letter was written by Dr Liz Phillips, who wrote: “It is my clinical opinion (backed by medical evidence) that they ingested an unspecified neurotoxin with the meal …. I believe this would meet the criteria required by ACC for accidental poisoning and entitle them to cover of medical expenses and access to physiotherapy.”

The couple hope the ACC claim will be accepted, but they said what they want more than that is to know what caused them to become so sick so fast.

“We worry about our children and our future as we don’t know what is going to happen to us,” Babu, 33, said.

“We still get symptoms. If we go for a walk, we feel uncomfortable and it is like our body is doing tremors.

“The muscles become painful for three to five hours afterwards. If I am holding a phone, I can only do that for 10 minutes or my hand will start shaking. It happens whenever I hold something. That’s why we want to know. We can have a plan.”

They do not accept the “unspecified neurotoxin” may remain unknown and that Waikato DHB says there is no evidence of any public health threat.

“If it happened to us, it could happen to others,” Kochummen, 35, said. “We need all testing to be done.”

Family friend Joji Varghese visited the family every day they were in hospital.

“I was at my son’s baptism and we noticed they were not there,” he said. “We made some calls and found out they were in Hamilton hospital.”

Varghese and other members of the stricken family’s church arranged a support network to look after the two children. Their two youngsters have since gone to India to be cared for by extended family.

Varghese also wants to testing done.

“I wonder in New Zealand, who has such strict border patrols to stop things coming in, that we can accept there is just an unknown neurotoxin out there,” he said. “That’s scary, really. We need to know what’s out there.”

Kochummen and Babu have been cleared to travel back to India for a month to recover with family but before they depart they wanted to express their thanks to the New Zealanders who rallied around them at a time of crisis.

“The community was amazing,” Babu said. “We are very thankful to everyone who helped us and our family.”

SOURCE:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/100749727/wild-boar-meal-victims-take-recovery-day-by-day?fbclid=IwAR1pPWNOyyyALglhFRppzIH-6xKTptu2BzheXAzi_a8Fz9LThwjkDhn0jbc

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Should government agencies and councils inform you when they deposit 1080 poison bait directly into your water? Apparently not

From TV-Wild – “To make things worse, the Government now permits the spreading of 1080 poison bait directly into water, and without the requirement for a resource consent certificate.

So please make sure you request alternative water when your next poison drop takes place, and avoid ending up in the same boat as this community …” Clyde Graf


Please go to the TV-Wild’s website for further information on 1080 goings on, check out our 1080 pages also at the main menu, including the links to other resources. Find other articles on topic by using ‘categories’ (left of front page) or the search box. Educate & protect yourself. Your esteemed authorities are not excelling in that right now. Be fore armed.
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Poison just lying around in the bush alarms overseas visitor – in same area the pig that poisoned the Putararu family came from

Thanks to Carol Sawyer & Australian visitor, Mark Slater for this compilation of facts about the apparent carelessness around the spread, storage & care of poison in our bush by NZ’s Department of Conservation. This article is about Pindone being left lying around, however the before & after storage & care of 1080 pellets after drops has also frequently been called into question by visitors, by locals who observe while hunting, tramping, trapping and so forth and by folk whose pets have been poisoned inadvertently. Watch carefully if you are tramping, hunting or just enjoying the scenery in NZ. What I find most disturbing is the number of comments I’m seeing on forums and feedback from tourists is that they don’t see many birds, just as Mark has commented here in this article. See our pages on suspected poisonings from such at the 1080 pages (main menu). (For other 1080 articles use the search box or ‘categories’ – left of news page). And if you have incidents where you’ve noticed this poison lying around, a lack of signage to warn the public, or if you’ve had your own farm animals or pets poisoned, record it and send it to me if you’d like it published. EnvirowatchRangitikei


“It should be pointed out that this is the area where the pig that poisoned the Putaruru family last year came from (see map). That was not Pindone poisoning, but almost certainly 1080 poisoning, but it shows how dangerous this Pureora Forest Park and our other wild places have become.”

Australian, Mark Slater, was in NZ last month hunting. He went on a hunting trip in Pureora Forest Park, with his son and three of his son’s Kiwi mates.

(Pureora Forest Park is in the North Island and straddles the Hauhungaroa and Rangitoto ranges west of Lake Taupo and east of Te Kuiti.)

I spoke to Mark today. He told me they were given permission to enter the Park through a farmer’s property and tramped for four and a half days, from one side to the other, where a vehicle was waiting to pick them up. They followed tracks with pink, yellow and green markers – see photo. All the tracks had names ( like Grassy Track, etc ).

Mark said ” The forest didn’t seem alive at all. I was last here three years ago and there were heaps of wood pigeons (Kereru) but this time I only saw two. We only saw 6 deer in four days.”

On Day 3 they came across two drums of Pindone Poison. They are 44 gallon drums (205 litres) and looked as though they had obviously been there for some time. One was standing up but the bottom was rusting out so it was leaking, and the one pictured, also rusting with the lid open, was lying on its side. The Pindone was in white hessian-look plastic but the bag was full of water. The poison was all wet and soggy. Mark said if the water is getting in, then there must be a hole in the bags, so it will be leaking out onto the ground.

He was quite shocked but he said the Kiwis were reasonably blasé about it. (We have become so used to the irresponsible behaviour of our Dept of Conservation !)

Mark says “I was more shocked that I was drinking the water downstream ! I thought hunters should know.”

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Since I posted this, Roy Hollister has provided the attached photo ( taken 13/10/ 2016 ) of abandoned bait stations in Pureora Forest Park. I asked if any poison was still in them but he says there was no sign of poison residue in any of the traps – how slack, though, to leave piles like that lying around in the bush !
Roy says “I’d say looking at the leaf litter on top of them they had been there 5 or more years. They are next to the Kitemairangi Road which takes you up to the Kitemairangi loop track in Piropiro flats, South Pureora Forest Park. We witnessed the 1080 drop there a few years back The decline in bird life and morning chorus was outstanding. We were in the forest 3 months after the drop and still found baits on the ground.”
Roy adds ” The abandoned bait stations were still there as of April 11, 2018 “.

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It should be pointed out that this is the area where the pig that poisoned the Putaruru family last year came from ( see map ). That was not Pindone poisoning, but almost certainly 1080 poisoning, but it shows how dangerous this Pureora Forest Park and our other wild places have become.

Photos (not in the documented order):

1 )DoC Pindone drum leaking into Pureora Forest Park – Photo Mark Slater
2 ) Pink marker in Pureora Forest Park – Photo Mark Slater
3 ) Map of Pureora Forest Park – Screenshot provided by Moo Scotting
4 ) Pile of bait stations left abandoned – Pureora Forest Park – Photo Roy Hollister, 13 October 2016 – the bait stations were still there as of April 11, 2018.
5 ) Bait still intact on ground three months after aerial 1080 poison drop, Pureora Forest Park – Photo Roy Hollister, 13 October, 2016
6 ) Deer carcass, Pureora Forest Park – Photo Roy Hollister, 13 October, 2016 ( Roy says ” We found lots of deer like this.)

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RELATED – A 1080 POISON DROP IN PUREORA FOREST PARK – VIDEO BY THE GRAFBOYS:

Coromandel conservation group is calling for a halt to regional funding of toxin use on private land for wild animal control

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PRESS RELEASE:

A Coromandel conservation group is calling for a halt to regional funding of toxin use on private land for wild animal control.

The Upper Coromandel Landcare Assocation (UCLA) is asking Waikato Regional Council to suspend any further cash grants to “community” groups for placement of toxin 1080 and anticoagulant rat poisons on private properties on the peninsula.

UCLA cited a $41,000 grant to the Moehau Environment Group, a local contractor to WRC, for placement this summer of the poisons in bait stations on hundreds of hectares in Port Charles in an operation opposed by many landowners in the small community. In addition to concerns over secondary poisoning of protected native species and inhumane controls generally, local residents have objected to extreme danger from toxic animal carcasses on neighbouring properties, as well as poisons entering the food chain.

A recent memorandum from the Department of Conservation confirmed that 1080 resides in the environment and food chain after placement. The toxin has been implicated in the near-fatal poisoning of three Waikato residents after they ate wild pork.

According to UCLA spokesperson Reihana Robinson, there are safe, affordable, and acceptable alternatives to use of residual toxins, including trapping and hunting. “The $41,000 MEG grant, much of which covered 1080 poisoning on the property of the group’s own coordinator and her neighbour, is a dangerous, irresponsible, and wasteful use of regional rates dollars.”

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“Locals cannot walk dogs safely along the main road, children cannot safely explore up the Tangiaro Valley, families can not harvest nutritional wild food, and unsuspecting landowners may wind up with hazardous toxins on their own properties,” Robinson said. “And as for our tourism-based economy, visitors are being greeted with kilometres of skull-and-crossbone warning signs instead of the pristine bush they expected.”

“We are not talking conservation estate or protection of crown land. This is public funding of dangerous poisons on private properties within metres of property lines and roads, with toxins potentially migrating onto other people’s land.”

UCLA notes that hundreds of thousands of ratepayer dollars are being directed by the regional council this term to so-called “community groups” for possum, rat, and mustelid control with little or no accountability and without wider community support.

“It’s easy for council staff to farm out control work with a few big cheques to a few eco-contractors,” Robinson said. “But unfortunately, it is harmful not only to the environment, but to ratepayers and residents, and to regional council’s own relations with the wider community.”

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Singer Song-writer releases anti-1080 song “Poison Rain”

‘Poison Rain’ calls for an end to 1080 poison and other rodenticides in New Zealand, poison that is banned in many countries. The song asks for a better solution to be found, one that does not involve tons of poison continually tipped on New Zealand’s native forests.

From naturalmedicine.net.nz
by Katherine Smith

Singer-Songwriter Aly Cook as she releases a newly commissioned song ‘Poison Rain’. (Electronic Acoustic Adult Contemporary) The song has been “self penned” and co produced with Jay Pheye in his little Golden Bay Studio and mastered by Benny Tones. ‘Poison Rain’ is now available for pre-sale on Itunes with the official release being on Friday 9th of Feb.

The song may be purchased from the links below.

All proceeds from the sale of ‘Poison Rain’ will go back into paid promotion of the TV Wild video and the song to the public and to continue the lobby to the NZ Government TO BAN the USE of 1080 and similar aerial dropped poisons. :

POISON RAIN ITUNES: https://itunes.apple.com/nz/album/id1342088626

OR

Key2Store ​http://www.key2artistpromotions.com.au/store

‘Poison Rain’ calls for an end to 1080 poison and other rodenticides in New Zealand, poison that is banned in many countries. The song asks for a better solution to be found, one that does not involve tons of poison continually tipped on New Zealand’s native forests.

The song now has its own Facebok page where you can see the music video: https://www.facebook.com/stopthedropnz/videos/287934298401454/

To learn more about eh issue of 1080, one option is to watch the film Poisoning Paradisehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQRuOj96CRs

Aly Cook became intent on looking into 1080 poison after a conversation she had with friends who​featured on a TV Wild Video​. New Zealand farmers were interviewed in the video who had all suffered stock losses from 1080 poison drops. These farmers had been instructed by various government departments to put their compensation payouts down to ‘track maintenance’ or ‘stock food’, after their animals had tested positive for 1080 poisoning. Other farmers were asked to sign confidentiality clauses. ​watch the video here

This conversation lead Aly to look more into safe ways to reduce the number of stoats, rats and possums in the NZ bush. If there was nothing to hide, the farmers would not have been instructed to lie on an invoice.The more Aly looked into it, the more oxymorons she found. DOC claims 1080 did not kill invertebrates… yet 1080 was developed as an insecticide.

Aly says … “There are lies everywhere covering up, for example, the recent ‘so called’ botulism case in which a family who had consumed wild pork were hospitalised due to life-threatening illness.

(Here is the interview with the actual family and excerpts from their medical notes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6i4pZ5RYI4&t=570s)

The hunter’s dog died the day the wild pork was collected . After eating the pork it made the family so violently ill that they were thrashing around and the hospital staff had to strap them into their beds for days”.

The family tested negative for botulism yet they were not tested for 1080 poisoning until 18 days later following a lawyer being engaged by the family. I urge kiwis to watch this documentary and also think about what this is doing to our clean and green image. We have to find a better solution to pest control than this”.

READ MORE

http://www.naturalmedicine.net.nz/news/singer-song-writer-releases-anti-1080-song-poison-rain/

POISONED WAIKATO FAMILY: An experienced hunter asks why no authorities have contacted the hunter who provided the meat that may also have killed his own dog

WHY DID THE AUTHORITIES NOT CONTACT THE PIG HUNTER WHO SOLD THE POISONED FAMILY THE WILD PIG ?!

This comment is from Lloyd Hanson a NZ hunter of 53 yrs experience. He raises some important questions that reflect more inconsistencies in the case of the poisoned Waikato family:

There is a lot of misinformation coming from mainly the pro poison side so here is a small attempt to rectify this :

Here is my opinion, based on over 30 years studying 1080, hunting and observing 1080 aerial drops on the ground. Also as an ex possum hunter I know the bush well.

LD50 rates/pig/human are irrelevant as this is the amount it is meant to take to KILL the animal/human concerned, not to cause ILLNESS, and in the human case has never been studied extensively so the rate is……..?????

Clyde Graf, Steve Graf and I observed a margin 1080 aerial drop in the Teme Valley, Marlborough a few years back, and after 12 hours we discovered 7 dead red deer hinds and a 50kg pig dead in the river.

We found the deer that we believe the pig had fed on, and it had eaten out the paunch (gut) area which resulted in it’s death a few hours later !

The deer of course had taken a lot more pellets than was necessary to reach its LD50 rate as one could stand in one place under the helicopter’s course and observe several pellets, making it easy for the hind to smell and pick up the scented cereal based baits in a short time period.

Now in the case of the poisoned wild pork consumed by the Indian people who were admitted to hospital in a critical condition :

The hunter who caught the pig was hunting in an aerial 1080’d block! He may have been unaware, as some hunters have access through the back of farms or through isolated, unsigned areas.

He may have been using holding dogs which latch onto the head or ear area if possible, and will bite somewhere to get a grip, resulting in ingestion of blood or saliva from the pig. It depends on how long it takes the hunter to get to the pig how much blood can be ingested ! Also some hunters feed offal to their dogs to reward them for their effort at the time of capture.

The word on the street is that this pig hunter’s dog was fed the heart of the pig.

It is unknown how deadly this poison is to humans. It may well be as toxic to humans as it is to dogs. No testing is done on humans and the research used to defend the poison is mostly anecdotal from years ago.

I will only cover this aspect of the whole sorry affair but will leave you with this thought:

How come Ministry of Primary Industries, or Waikato District Health Board, or NZ Police didn’t contact the hunter concerned, because if these people had died it could have been a manslaughter case, could it not? The poisoned family’s lawyer managed to contact him without a bother !

Lloyd Hanson

Hunter for 53 years.”

Postscript : The dog died, presumed to be of poison. See this film “DHB coverup” for the whole story :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6i4pZ5RYI4

and see this older article ( 10 December, 2017 ) by a neuroscientist, on the same topic of the poisoned Waikato family, which has some interesting info on 1080 in pigs :

https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/…/update-on-th…/

FOR A HISTORY OF THIS STORY GO HERE:

https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/suspected-1080-poisoning-cases/


FURTHER POST SCRIPT FROM CLYDE GRAF:

Does anyone out there know a forensic pathologist – a medical expert – who can make a determination on what poison is likely to have caused the following effects-symptoms in the poisoned family from Putaruru? The family that the Waikato DHB said was suffering from botulism? (If so, please email tvwild@xtra.co.nz – in confidence, or contact through messenger on FB).

Points to note

Shibu, one of the victims, stated he believed the poisoning was caused by 1080 (sodium monofluoroacetate) based on what he recalled the pig hunter had told him when receiving the pig, and upon gaining consciousness after 3 weeks in a coma. The pig hunter also reportedly told Shibu that the pig was fine to feed to his family (as is also stated by DoC, TBFree and regional councils – you’d need to consume a huge amount of poisoned flesh to get a dose that would harm you).

The New Zealand Government-owned factory that imports and manufacturers the baits currently says it’s mix is 0.15% pure 1080 in bait. And that just 30 grams of bait, or 2 and a half standard sized 12 gram baits, may kill an adult human. 166 of these twelve gram baits are currently spread (@ 2kg bait/Ha) across every hectare of land and water in New Zealand aerial operations. Enough bait to kill over 60 million people every year… https://www.pestoff.co.nz/assets/sds1080pellets.pdf

Also note – Shibu stated that the pig hunter told him that his dog had died on the same day, assumed to be from 1080 poison. Also note – over 70% of New Zealand’s forests are aerially spread with 1080 poison every 2 – 3 years … the poison is spread across forests, and also across all waterways within those forests, in most aerial operations around New Zealand. (See www.tvwild.co.nz for information about aerial operations across New Zealand)

Here are the symptoms to consider …

Symptoms mentioned in medical notes:

Vomiting
Abdominal pain
Agitated
Confused
Groaning
Reduced verbal response
Vocal paralysis
Muscle weakness
Opthalmoplegia (paralysis of muscles within or surrounding the eyes)
Pupils sluggish
Eyes rolling back in head
Reduced GCS (eye, verbal and motor response)
Tachycardia
Spontaneous jerky movements
Hypotonia
Biting
Personality change
Aggression
Sweaty
Fever
Delirium
Tremors
Repetitive muscle twitching and eye flickering
Dystonic posturing of legs
Spasmodic rigid movements
Legs flipping backwards 180 degrees
Legs in frog position
Flailing arms and legs that need to be restrained to avoid injury
Arms out to side or above head
Convulsions that required six staff members to hold the patient down
Tonic clonic seizures
Difficulty swallowing
Fatigue
Autonomic dysfunction
Afebrile
Muscle pain
Rising inflammatory markers
Elevated levels of CK (highest about 5000)
Facial grimacing
Unresponsive to pain
Tongue protrusion at times
Cough
Arching and flinging head, arms and legs against side rails
Incoherent
Unconscious
Pachymeningeal thickening
Inability to think clearly
Crying
Wailing

pestoff.co.nz


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Press Release following further examination of the poisoned Waikato family’s medical notes – Kathy White

From Kathy White

I’ve spent the last few weeks reading the medical notes of the Kochumman family that was poisoned through eating wild boar, and my reading has worried me. Not just because of the vomiting, the inability to speak and the violent convulsions that required the family to be strapped to their hospital beds for weeks. But because the first working diagnosis by the registrar on the day the family was admitted to hospital was “consumption of meat containing poison used for possum/rodent killing ? neurotoxin ? 1080 ? strychnine poisoning which can produce a picture of lactic acidosis, nausea, vomiting, altered mental state and convulsions …. I cannot come up with an alternative pathology for raised lactate. May need to see if the police can test the meat for neurotoxins.”

1080 is repeated in the working diagnosis over and over again by different doctors over the weeks that the family was unconscious. Blood and urine samples had been taken. The curry that had been consumed had been given to the Medical Officer of Health, so why did no one test for 1080?

Instead a botulism antitoxin was quickly administered and the media was told that it was working. Does “working” mean the patients’ condition worsened? Because it did in fact worsen in almost all respects. A doctor said one patient’s condition had been worsening for 6/7 days. His inflammatory markers were sky high, his CK (creatine kinase) reaching 5000. The ADDS system confirmed the patient’s deteriorating condition. Clearly my understanding of the “botulism antitoxin working” is different to that of the DHB. Many people, including the international Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), advised that this wasn’t likely to be botulism. Doctors kept recording 1080 poison in the working diagnosis, but 1080 tests were not done on the food, on the patients’ vomit, stomach contents, or blood.

Finally, the patients’ urine was tested for 1080, 18 days after hospitalisation. Possibly coincidentally, the 1080 tests were done a week after the DHB received an Official Information Act request asking for the toxicology results from this case. Unfortunately the Landcare Research protocol for testing 1080 in urine requires that it be tested within two days of the sample being taken, so the negative result is less than reliable. The timing of the 1080 test and its lack of compliance with the protocol was not disclosed to the media. In contrast, full botulism tests were done on the patients and on the food and these all came back negative. So did a range of other tests for substances that were far less likely than 1080.

The New Zealand government owns the factory that manufactures 1080 baits for pest control. Government agencies spread these baits aerially and DO NOT remove the poisoned carcasses that are scavenged by wild pigs. We have a duty of care to not only do pest control in a way that minimises harm to the food chain, but also to put people’s welfare first. The least we can do is test for 1080 when people are convulsing on a hospital bed and doctors agree that the symptoms indicate 1080 poisoning.

Look at the medical notes, and decide for yourself in the video called DHB coverup – Politics before patient welfare for wild boar poisoned family. https://youtu.be/j6i4pZ5RYI4

Kathy White

Kathy White is the Waikato Regional Councillor for Taupo-Rotorua. This is her personal view.

A recent interview with the poisoned Waikato family reveals more details about the ongoing DHB cover up

This latest interview is from the GrafBoys (TV Wild) revealing more from the family who were poisoned from eating wild pork, likely by all appearances from a 1080 treated area. Basically a trail of flip flops from day one, it all reeks of cover up in what looks like a scramble to exclude 1080 as a possible cause. I mean, not testing the meal for 1080 at all? Not testing the family’s urine until after the required timeline for testing has expired? This is not rocket science and it is not the first time the NZ health authorities have bungled in the field of testing for correct diagnosis. Back in 2006 a NZ medical doctor suspected 1080 poisoning as the cause of death in a young woman, and subsequently the NZ lab charged with testing her heart to confirm or rule out this possibility lost her heart.

See links to the the TV Wild channel at the video on Youtube (click on YT icon, bottom right of video). For the history of this story go to this page or for all 1080 posts find 1080 under categories at left of the page. For more info on 1080 see our 1080 pages at the main menu. (See updates below from Kathy White).
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Further comments from Waikato Regional Councillor Kathy White:

I’ve spent the last few weeks reading the medical notes of the Kochumman family that was poisoned through eating wild boar. Here are the things that have resonated with me: (1) the first working diagnosis by the registrar on the day the family was admitted to hospital was “consumption of meat containing poison used for possum/rodent killing ? neurotoxin ? 1080 ? strychnine poisoning which can produce a picture of lactic acidosis, nausea, vomiting, altered mental state and convulsions. Saying this, the differential remains wide, although we do not think this is infection … I cannot come up with an alternative pathology for raised lactate. May need to see if the police can test the meat for neurotoxins.”

If this was the working diagnosis from Day One, why did the authorities not test any of the food for 1080 poison or its metabolites? Why did they not test the patients for 1080 poisoning until 18 days later? The medical notes show doctors were waiting for a 1080 test result. And yet someone made the decision not to do these tests, or to at least delay them. Unfortunately, testing urine for 1080 18 days after hospitalisation does not fit with testing protocol and renders the test unreliable.

Kathy White is the Waikato Regional Councillor for Taupo-Rotorua. This is her personal view.

Follow this link for a further press release from Kathy White:

https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2018/01/22/press-release-following-further-examination-of-the-poisoned-waikato-familys-medical-notes-kathy-white/

 

With botulism ruled out 3 days in, and 1080 a suspected cause, still we were told the poisoned Waikato family had botulism

Very unfortunate, because although 1080 was suspected early on, they didn’t test for it until EIGHTEEN days later. As the esteemed & so called health professionals would have known at the time, testing for it after 7 days is useless as all presence of 1080 would be gone from the urine & that is according to DoC’s own documentation. So the tests would have been USELESS. (See Charles Eason’s Vertebrate Pesticides Toxicology Manual for further details). This would explain why the family had such difficulty in acquiring their medical notes in the first instance.

So … unfortunate? Or deliberate? Why in a suspected poisoning ask yourself, do you NOT test for the glaringly obvious? And even more importantly, why do you keep telling the public via the media that the diagnosis is botulism when three days in that diagnosis has been eliminated. And by a SPECIALIST. The media (stuff) was headlining ‘botulism’ on 4th December still – the poisoning occurred on 10th November.  We published an article on 10th December with comments from a Neuroscientist (who wished to remain anonymous) posing questions about the diagnosis & claiming the symptoms did not match botulism:

“Rehabilitation from sub lethal 1080 poisoning is simple. Time.
Botulism treatment takes a long time, years. Whereas recovery from sub lethal 1080 poisoning is much faster.
This family could have been treated for alzheimers, for mumps, for shellfish poisoning, for botulism, for polio, for meningitis. The results would be the same, they would recover.
The timeline of the recovery is just as diagnostic as the timeline of the illness, and the time line does NOT fit botulism” … Serena Maja, Neuroscientist

Then next up were revelations from the family through an interview by the Graf Boys at TV-Wild.

So on top of all of the above, unbelievably, they did NOT test the meat for 1080!! Is this not all screaming ‘cover up’? Go figure.

The article below is from mainstream media with the family’s lawyer expressing concern. For a change mainstream is challenging the official stories. Quite rare really, however they still fail to really nail the authorities down to a why? Why did they not test the meat, or why did they not test the family earlier? Then wander off into the possibilities of mushrooms or other plant life, still skirting that 1080 issue. The point is, the authorities in question have been caught with their proverbial pants down, and are still remaining silent.

You should be concerned that we have a large public hospital here that appears to be officially lying to the public, going by their own notes  “… there was no evidence to suggest botulism”. This has implications for your future treatment should you fall ill and be at their mercy. Worse, should you fall ill from suspected 1080 poisoning, you should be very concerned in light of what happened to the young woman in 2006 whose heart incredibly, the NZ lab lost.

May we finally hear some truth on all of this.

Note: to read all articles on this topic scroll to the end of this article for a timeline, or for all articles on 1080 use the categories drop down box at left of the news page.

EnvirowatchRangitikei

Poisoned Waikato family’s medical notes concerning, lawyer says

From stuff.co.nz

Medical notes about a mystery poisoning that plunged three family members into a coma suggest inadequate testing, the family’s spokeswoman says.

Shibu Kochummen, 35, his wife Subi Babu, 33, and his mother Alekutty Daniel, 62, were found in a vegetative stateon the floor of their Putaruru home on November 10 shortly after eating a wild boar curry.

Botulism was the original – but incorrect – diagnosis. And nerve conduction tests as early as November 13 – three days after the trio’s hospitalisation – indicated the illness wasn’t botulism, the family’s lawyer and spokeswoman Sue Grey said after obtaining the medical notes.
“The diagnosis was that there was no evidence to suggest botulism. A specialist was asked to look at [it] and that was his conclusion. “That does raise questions about why the health board was continuing to say it was botulism for such a long time after they had so many results indicating it wasn’t.
“If that botulism thing [was] ruled out at the start when the first negative tests were coming in they would have had ACC by now.
“There are politics but you’d like to think that politics aren’t interfering with medicine.”
The DHB have ruled the illness an unidentified poisoning from an unspecified neurotoxin.
The illness caused paralysis, vomiting, thrashing, memory loss and strange behaviour such as child-like laughing.
Grey said she hadn’t seen any food tests other than the negative botulism result from the pork dish consumed.
“When we met with the CEO on Wednesday he told us that MPI, the Ministry of Primary Industries, had done the food sample tests. So I’ve written and asked them for their information but I still haven’t got that back.”
While the MPI have an “informal” involvement in the case, they are not testing implicated food, a spokesperson said.

“The Waikato DHB is the lead agency and MPI had a very minimal involvement at the initial stages in working with ESR (Institute of Environmental Science and Research) on some testing procedures,” the spokesperson said in a statement.

“We do not believe there are any public health concerns as this incident/issue appears to be confined to one particular family.”

Grey said she’s still going through the family’s notes but understands 1080 was an early suspected cause.
“That is really concerning because as far as we can ascertain at the moment, the only testing that was done on 1080 was that single test 18 days after [hospitalisation].”

Professor Steve Flint, an expert in food safety and microbiology at Massey University, said he hoped more food testing had been conducted by MPI or the DHB.

“My surprise – from what I’ve read from media reports –  is that there isn’t a full scale investigation into this.

“I’m quite surprised that no one has actually looked at the food and analysed the food.”

Toxins in some kind of plant could have caused the violent illness, Flint said.

“[Wild] mushrooms can also be quite toxic. You get almost hallucinogenic.

“There’s always the possibility of something that we haven’t discovered yet, something new.

“If it is, it would be unusual but this whole scenario is unusual.

“In a country like New Zealand, you often think about our native plants and things that people may not have reported any illnesses from.

“If it’s not botulism then what is it, because we need to know.”

SOURCE

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/100346840/poisoned-waikato-familys-medical-notes-concerning-lawyer-says

 

Calling out the Waikato DHB & MPI to respond to questions about the glaring inconsistencies in their procedures regarding the poisoned Putaruru family

Waikato Regional Councilor Kathy White, having read the finally released medical notes for the Kochumman family poisoned by wild boar in Putaruru, has raised some important questions. Developments with regard to the anomalies surrounding this case have been curious to say the least. Read our previous articles and posts on topic *below.

The questions that need to be asked of both the Waikato DHB and the MPI are:

(1) 1080 was the number one suspect, according to the poisoned patients’ medical notes. The Waikato DHB states that they have tested for 1080. However the date of the urine test was 18 days after hospitalisation, which is outside of the time that 1080 is detectable in urine (it is excreted from urine within seven days of ingestion – See Charles Eason’s Vertebrate Pesticides Toxicology Manual for further details). So why was this test not done within the correct time frame?

(2) (Incredibly) none of the meat collected by MPI has been tested for 1080. This was confirmed in a meeting with the WDHB yesterday. Why was it was not tested, when the patients’ medical notes say the wild boar meat should be tested for 1080?

(3) Why did they continue to say it was botulism when they knew early on that the symptoms didn’t fully align?

(4) Why has neither the WDHB nor MPI followed up with the person who provided the wild boar meat to Shibu’s family? This information is held by the WDHB. It could be a public health risk as this person has probably supplied meat to others.

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Responding to these issues was never rocket science. Why would the family’s meat not be tested for 1080? Why would you wait 18 days to test the family for 1080 knowing perfectly well that the results would be useless?

How safe people do you feel about eating your hunting catch now? These are all issues people have been trying persistently to address with little success as our country continues to be showered relentlessly with a poison that has no known antidote.

 

*LINKS TO HISTORICAL TIMELINE:

Family face permanent disablity after eating wild pig
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/11/17/family-face-permanent-disablity-after-eating-wild-pig/

A New form of Botulism or something more deadly? (the case of the poisoned Waikato family)
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/11/22/a-new-form-of-botulism-or-something-more-deadly-the-case-of-the-poisoned-waikato-family/

Update from a Neuroscientist on the Waikato family poisoned by wild boar meat .. the anomalies surrounding the official diagnosis
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/12/10/update-on-the-waikato-family-poisoned-by-wild-boar-meat-and-the-anomalies-surrounding-the-official-diagnosis/

Suspect meat seemed in ‘pristine condition’ after 35 days
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/346324/suspect-meat-seemed-in-pristine-condition-after-35-days

Poisoned family having difficulty accessing their medical records
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/12/27/poisoned-family-having-difficulty-accessing-their-medical-records/

 Wild Boar Botulism Family Speak Out – The Full Story from the GrafBoys
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/category/1080/

Crying ‘botulism’ from day one, we now have a complete ‘about face’ on the poisoned Waikato family
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2017/12/23/crying-botulism-from-day-one-we-now-have-a-complete-about-face-on-the-poisoned-waikato-family/

Mystery family poisoning – ‘No evidence’ boar was the cause
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/346807/mystery-family-poisoning-no-evidence-boar-was-the-cause

Why 18 days to test for 1080? Waikato DHB feeds public porkies on poisoned wild pork test results
https://envirowatchrangitikei.wordpress.com/2018/01/03/waikato-dhb-feeds-public-porkies-on-poisoned-wild-pork-test-results/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Update from a Neuroscientist on the Waikato family poisoned by wild boar meat .. the anomalies surrounding the official diagnosis

ARTICLE BY Serena Maja* and Michelle Read

“Rehabilitation from sub lethal 1080 poisoning is simple. Time.
Botulism treatment takes a long time, years. Whereas recovery from sub lethal 1080 poisoning is much faster.
This family could have been treated for alzheimers, for mumps, for shellfish poisoning, for botulism, for polio, for meningitis. The results would be the same, they would recover.
The timeline of the recovery is just as diagnostic as the timeline of the illness, and the time line does NOT fit botulism” … Serena Maja, Neuroscientist

 

The family is facing a massive medical bill after they were made ill following a meal of wild boar.

Officials are still to confirm botulism, but it is the ‘only thing’ they are testing for. And now the report says ‘confirmation will take months’.

ACC has told them they don’t ‘qualify’ for compensation and botulism is not covered by ACC.

We are not making the statement that this is poisoning from pest control operations, but at the same time we find it interesting that the authorities are determined that they have a case of botulism and do not look elsewhere.

The International Society for Infectious Diseases asked on the 18th November for clarification because this is unlikely to be botulism. A number of medical professionals have contacted us within NZ and stated that this family cannot have contracted botulism because of the timing of the onset of symptoms, the symptom of loss of consciousness, and the fact that botulism is not contracted from fresh meat.

However, this family did not receive a lethal dose of poison.

Pig sensitivity to 1080, for example, is estimated at between 0.4mg/kg and 1mg/kg.

Animals rapidly evolve resistance to 1080, and we have used 1080 poison for more than 60 years.

Exposure to sub lethal 1080 doses can lead to protection against 10x the normal LD50.

Therefore, these boar (and we have no real data on boar) may be able to tolerate 4mg/kg and 10mg/kg minimum, before half of them fall over and die.

Human susceptibility is not known. Estimates are between 1mg/kg and 4mg/kg, although we do know that genetic variations in the human glutathione transferase enzyme change sensitivity, i.e. different halotypes/races of humans will experience variations on that sensitivity.

It is not unlikely that the family ate a significant non-lethal dose of fluoroacetate and fluorocitrate (the lethal metabolite of 1080) from poisoned pork.

The onset time of 1080 poisoning is 30 minutes, the symptoms are identical.

Botulism and Botox (botulinum toxin) poisoning do not fit the symptoms at all, either dynamically or by effect.

Tutin poisoning does not fit the observed toxicological profile either.

Why is 1080 not being considered as the primary likely cause? Are we putting our fingers in our ears and refusing to look?

We are dropping ever increasing amounts of the stuff. Two pellets will kill a child. This kind of sub-lethal secondary poisoning is an ever increasing likelihood. We’ve observed it in raptors catching sub-lethally poisoned mammals already.

The test for 1080 poisoning (and fluorocitrate poisoning, 1080 being the delivery mechanism for fluorocitrate) is simple, yet our government insists it is not. NMR spectroscopy is used worldwide to observe either the fluoridated molecules directly, or to assay the metabolic by-products of fluorocitrate poisoning.

Given the amount of 1080 used in NZ, we should have test facilities in every major population centre.

The fact we do not speaks volumes.

“One of the most detailed descriptions of recovery from 1080 poisoning is McTaggart’s (1970) report of a child who ingested rabbit bait: Ten days after ingesting 1080, the boy began to recover during hospitalisation. He was able to keep his eyes open, and to appreciate some movement, but had marked hypertonicity of all limbs with frequent spasms of his arms and legs. At this time he was incapable of spontaneous movement, and remained unable to feed himself for a full two weeks after regaining consciousness. Twenty-four days after he ingested 1080, the boy had regained some range of movement in his arms and was able to recognise familiar people and objects. Ten years later there was evidence of mental retardation with a verbal IQ of 65, he was still unable to walk without crutches, and suffered from tetraplegia, hypertonicity of all limbs, cogwheel rigidity of the wrists, moderate to severe cortical blindness, divergent squint, and epilepsy. It is likely that the mental retardation was the result of brain damage caused by anoxia during periods of fitting (Pridmore 1978), although there is evidence of brain damage resulting directly from fluoroacetate poisoning (Trabes et al 1983). Other patients have experienced a similar prolonged recovery period (5–6 days) (Gajdusek & Luther 1950; Robinson et al 2002) with complete eventual recovery. Pneumonia is a frequent complication of human 1080 poisoning cases (Williams 1948; Brockman et al 1955; Pridmore 1978; Ramirez 1986). While these infec- tions may reflect hospital intervention, it is also possible that infection is promoted because of the increased respi- ratory secretions typical of 1080 exposure (Chenoweth & Gilman 1946; Quin & Clark 1947; Brockman et al 1955; McIlroy 1981, 1982a, 1983, 1984, 1985).”

We are suggesting the cause could be 1080 as the time frame of the symptoms, the symptoms themselves, the time frame of the recovery and the symptoms of the recovery match 1080 poisoning. Doctors didn’t diagnose botulinum toxin, they thought that it might be, and treated as if it was. As yet, the results for the tests which would confirm botulism have not come back, and without those tests, the unusual time frame, unusual symptoms, unusual time of recovery and unusual recovery symptoms, botulism is unlikely. Recovery from non-lethal 1080 poisoning is time – (I’ve quoted the 10 year old boy case which is a perfect exemplar). They could have had limb massage, prayer circles or irrelevant anti-toxin for botox and they would still have recovered in the same way as observed recovery from non-lethal 1080 is normal, it is only if they had had a lethal dose that they wouldn’t have recovered.


*Serena Maja has a Masters degree in Neuroscience from Cambridge University, UK and a background in Analytic Chemistry and Natural Sciences.

 

COMMENT FROM ADMIN:

As I sometimes add to controversial posts, part of the purpose of this site is to expose lies and corruption and to publish truth that mainstream media will not. If you happen to be pro any topic posted here, there is little point trying to spark up a debate in the attempt to convince myself or others of your view point. I suggest you head to mainstream media where you will find like minds & your posts will almost certainly be published. It also goes without saying, abusive commenters are blocked instantly. The Neuroscientist cited in this particular post wishes to remain anonymous so has used a pseudonym. This is obviously why you will not find the name in a google search however I can assure you that Neuroscientist Serena Maja is real and is a Cambridge Masters. The wish for anonymity is not unusual, and people do contact me from time to time stating the same … for obvious reasons. Recent history has proven that speaking the truth or challenging the status quo these days can incur very unpleasant repercussions. You can accept or reject the information offered in this article as you wish. Nobody is saying it was 1080 that poisoned the family, we are asking the question everybody should be, why is 1080 not being tested for when clearly no firm diagnosis has yet been reached? I have added one response by Serena who I’ve made aware of some of the questions that have come in. And on that note, the questioners clearly have not read the article properly as most of the queries are answered in the article itself anyway.  EnvirowatchRangitikei


REFERENCES:
https://academic.oup.com/toxsci/article/69/2/439/1679717

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Miranda_Sherley/publication/228620466_Is_sodium_fluoroacetate_1080_a_humane_poison/links/0deec53b29369d82a3000000.pdf

 


This article (now updated) was originally posted on the  No to 1080 use in NZ Facebook page