Abortion outrage: Mums should be allowed to terminate newborns, say Australian academics

Continuing on with the extermination theme.  It just gets sicker. So… their argument in a nutshell:

“…a mother who is unwilling to care for her child outweighs an infant’s right to life…”

From thedailytelegraph.com.au

KILLING newborn babies should be allowed if the mother wishes, Australian philosophers have argued in a prestigious journal.

Their argument, that it is morally the same as abortion, has forced theBritish Medical Journal to defend its publication of their views.

In an article that has sparked outrage around the world and elicited death threats, Monash and Melbourne University academics argue that a foetus and a newborn both lack a sense of life and aspiration.

They argue this justifies “after-birth abortion” on the proviso it is painless as the baby is not missing out on a life it cannot contemplate.

The doctors of philosophy argue in the BMJ publication Journal of Medical Ethics that one-third of infants with Down syndrome are not diagnosed in the womb, which means mothers of children with severe disabilities should have the chance to end a child’s life after, as well as before, birth.

However, the pair also want the principle of killing newborns extended to healthy babies, because a mother who is unwilling to care for it outweighs an infant’s right to life.

In the article, After-birth abortion: why should the baby live?, the authors argue: “A serious philosophical problem arises when the same conditions that would have justified abortion become known after birth. In such cases, we need to assess facts in order to decide whether the same arguments that apply to killing a human fetus can also be consistently applied to killing a newborn human.”

They also write that the practice should be called “after-birth abortion” and not “infanticide” to “emphasise that the moral status of the individual killed is comparable with that of a foetus (on which ‘abortions’ in the traditional sense are performed) rather than to that of a child”.

“We claim that killing a newborn could be ethically permissible in all the circumstances where abortion would be. Such circumstances include cases where the newborn has the potential to have an (at least) acceptable life, but the well-being of the family is at risk. Accordingly, a second terminological specification is that we call such a practice ‘after-birth abortion’ rather than ‘euthanasia’ because the best interest of the one who dies is not necessarily the primary criterion for the choice, contrary to what happens in the case of euthanasia.”

Although the authors claim that the “moral status of an infant is equivalent to that of a fetus, that is, neither can be considered a ‘person’ in a morally relevant sense”, they concede it is hard to exactly determine when a subject starts or ceases to be a “person”.

The editor of the Journal of Medical Ethics, Julian Savulescu, said the articlehad “elicited personally abusive correspondence to the authors, threatening their lives and personal safety”. He said some of comments included:

“These people are evil. Pure evil. That they feel safe in putting their twisted thoughts into words reveals how far we have fallen as a society.”

“Right now I think these two devils in human skin need to be delivered for immediate execution under their code of ‘after birth abortions’ they want to commit murder – that is all it is! MURDER!!!”

“The fact that the Journal of Medical Ethics published this outrageous and immoral piece of work is even scarier”

“Alberto Giubilini looks like a muslim so I have to agree with him that all muslims should have been aborted. If abortion fails, no life at birth – just like he wants.”

He defended the article, saying the arguments in the paper were not new. “The novel contribution of this paper is not an argument in favour of infanticide … but rather their application in consideration of maternal and family interests. The paper also draws attention to the fact that infanticide is practised in the Netherlands.”

He said that “more than ever, proper academic discussion and freedom are under threat from fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society”.

Originally published as Killing newborns ‘should be allowed’

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/abortion-outrage-mums-should-be-allowed-to-terminate-newborns-say-australian-academics/news-story/05da73dcef423139d0b5003ca8d05346

5 thoughts on “Abortion outrage: Mums should be allowed to terminate newborns, say Australian academics”

  1. MY VIEWS ON ABORTION ARE EXTENSIVE, AND FOR ALL PEOPLES OF ALL NATIONS. I AM A STRICTLY PRO-LIFE INDIVIDUAL; HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE THAT ABORTIONS SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN SOME CASES, IN THE FIRST TRIMESTER DUE TO RAPE, INCEST, A BABY IN A TRANSVERSE POSITION IN THE WOMB THAT WILL CAUSE A MOTHER TO DIE, A MOTHER WHO CAN NOT RID YOURSELF OF ALCOHOL AND DRUGS. WHEN A WOMAN ANTICIPATES BEING PREGNANT SHE SHOULD PREPARE HER BODY TO BE IN THE BEST HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT FOR THE DEVELOPING CHILD. SHE SHOULD NOT BE SMOKING, DRINKING ALCOHOL, OR ON DRUGS, UNLESS PRESCRIBED AND UNDER STRICTEST OF SUPERVISION NOT TO AFFECT THE DEVELOPING CHILD. OTHERWISE IN CASES WHERE WOMEN DO NOT WANT TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN AFTER BIRTH, THERE SHOULD BE PRENATAL CENTERS, WHERE A MOTHER IS GIVEN PRIME CARE, AND BEING TAUGHT DIETING AND HEALTH MEASURES, WHERE AT THE SAME TIME THESE CENTERS WORK WITH AGENCIES, TO LOCATE LEGALLY MARRIED (MAN AND WOMAN) ADOPTIVE PARENTS, THAT WANT CHILDREN AND DESPERATELY WANT TO RAISE A FAMILY. IMMEDIATELY AT THE TIME OF BIRTH, WHERE THE MOTHERS DO NOT WANT TO RAISE THE CHILD, THE CHILD HAS AT THAT MOMENT PARENTS TO TAKE THE CHILD AND BRING IT INTO A LOVING HOME. AT THE TIME OF BIRTH THE CHILD IS IMMEDIATELY WHISK AWAY INTO THE ARMS OF TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE LEGALLY MARRIED. AFTERWARDS, THE PERSON WHO HAS GIVEN BIRTH IS INSTRUCTED ON SAFE BIRTH CONTROL METHODS AND OPTIONS, AND FROM THAT MOMENT A PERSON SHOULD CONSIDER HAVING SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH A PERSON THAT IS CONSIDERING MARRIAGE AND COMMITMENT AND THAT WILL MOLD TOGETHER TO BECOME A FAMILY UNTO THEMSELVES. MY LATE MOTHER TOLD ME ONCE THAT SHE HAD AN ABORTION, OR ELSE SHE WOULD HAVE DIED. THE BABY SHE ABORTED WAS A BABY GIRL, YES I WAS AROUND THEN IN SPIRIT. LATER IN YEARS I CAME BACK TO HER, THIS TIME I DID THINGS CORRECTLY, I DID NOT STAY IN THE TRANSVERSE POSITION AND DID NOT GIVE MY MOTHER ANY PROBLEMS. SHE WAS MORE THAN EVER HAPPY TO HAVE ME BACK AGAIN.

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